Guests:
Kelly
O'Donnell
Sen.
Ted Cruz (R-TX)
Rep.
Raul Labrador (R-ID)
Gary
Samore
Andrea
Mitchell
Dee
Dee Myers
Jon
Hunstman
Chris Matthews
Gregory:
OMG the government
is going to shut down!
O'Donnell:
the GOP will shut down the
entire
federal government unless the
Dems
cut taxes on medical devices
Gregory:
that's eminently reasonable
Gregory:
welcome Ted Cruz – are you in
control
of the federal government?
Cruz:
Obamacare is hurting millions of people
and
polls show the American people hate it
Gregory:
polls say a majority
want to
uphold the law
Cruz:
I don't care about polls –
just hold
a town hall and watch
the crazies roll -bussed
in by
the Koch brothers
Gregory:
what about the government shutdown?
Cruz:
Harry Reid should call the Senate back
Gregory:
the Senate just voted
Cruz:
yes but Harry Reid told the
American
people to jump in a lake
Gregory:
I see
Cruz:
Harry Reid said 'I will shut
down the government'
Gregory:
he passed a bill to keep it open
Cruz:
yes but with Obamacare which I don't like
Gregory:
of course – my mistake
Cruz:
Harry Reid likes corporations
more
than little people
Gregory:
you don't want to change
the
law – you want to kill it
Cruz:
no the Democrats are the
real
extremists and purists
Gregory:
how so?
Cruz:
we only want to delay the law not kill it
– why
won't Democrats compromise?
Gregory:
because it's law and we had a
Presidential
election and it was upheld by the
Supreme
Court and 56% say they want the law
Cruz:
but I hate Obamacare
Gregory:
that's it?
Cruz:
Jimmy Hoffa said Obamacare
is
destroying America
Gregory:
so why don't you pass a
law
changing the law?
Cruz:
Harry Reid is a thug
Gregory:
what else
Cruz:
Obama keeps ignoring the law
benefiting
big corporations and
ignoring
single moms and their
right
not to have health care
Gregory:
Obama says Ted Cruz is really
terrified
that people will like Obamacare
Cruz:
it's not working!
Gregory:
it hasn't been implemented yet
Cruz:
Obamacare is killing jobs
Gregory:
not the recession?
Cruz:
no Obamacare caused the
recession
in 2007
Gregory:
what is your plan for giving
people
health insurance?
Cruz:
canceling Obamacare to create jobs
Gregory:
that's it?
Cruz:
SeaWorld had to fire Shamu!
Gregory:
do you want a government shut down?
Cruz:
yes but we should pay our soldiers
Gregory:
that's not much of a plan
Cruz:
Obama is holding the
American military hostage
Gregory:
by the way you don't have the
votes
to overturn Obamacare even if
it
came to a vote
Cruz:
that's true but things could change
Gregory:
that's a terrible argument
Cruz:
Congress is exempt from the exchanges!
Gregory:
that's not true
Cruz:
the American people don't like Washington
Gregory:
no one likes you either
Cruz:
big businessesmen should have
to have medical insurance also
Gregory:
they do
Cruz:
that can't be true
Gregory:
Dems don't like you but
Republicans
despise you
Cruz:
some of them
Gregory:
Peter King calls you a fraud
and
George Will thinks you've lost your mind
Cruz:
we must delay Obamacare!
Gregory:
what else?
Cruz:
Harry Reid hates the American
people
and holds them hostage
Gregory:
who is the legislator you most admire?
Cruz:
Phil Graham for killing Hillarycare
and
banking regulations and then
cashing
in after leaving the Senate
Gregory:
that is admirable
Cruz:
remember when the American
people rose
up against Obama's attempt
to start
a war in the middle east
Gregory:
you compared Obamacare
to
Nazi Germany
Cruz:
no I compared myself to those who
bravely
went to the moon, fought the Civil War
and
won World War II
Gregory:
you're shamelessly running for President
Cruz:
Obamacare is killing jobs
Gregory:
there's no evidence for that
Cruz:
that could be true Fluffy
Gregory:
thanks for coming
[
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Gregory:
wow – there might be peace
between
America and Iran!
Mitchell:
amazing
Gregory:
what led Iran to this point?
Samore:
it's simple Fluffy –
Obama's economic
sanctions
Mitchell:
will Iran really give in though?
Gregory:
maybe
Mitchell:
they spent billions on a
heavy water reactor – it's
not like can
convert it into a swimming pool or a wine cellar
Gregory:
how can we stop them building a nuke?
Samore:
the U.S. will demand strict limits
Gregory:
but we've had inspections before
Samore:
this would go beyond that –
they'd
have to file weekly TPS reports
Gregory:
but Iran is very scary
Mitchell:
but if it works it could be an incredible
breakthrough
– it could remake the whole region
Gregory:
interesting – but Bibi doesn't trust Iran
Samore:
Obama won't trust them
– but we have to try
Gregory:
is Iran faking or is this real?
Samore:
the sanctions are real
Mitchell:
the problem is that Obama is
not
tough enough because he didn't
bomb
Syria like he said he would
Gregory:
But Syria blinked
Mitchell:
look all Democrats are wimps and
all
Republicans are tough – I have to repeat
this
for the rest of my life
Gregory:
who gets blamed in
a government shutdown?
Matthews:
Obamacare was enacted into
law
and Ted Cruz has some vision
that
it must meet his approval or we
don't
get a budget
Labrador:
Obama has delayed
the law for his
friends and all
we asking for is a one-year delay
Myers:
you're tried 41 times to repeal
the
law and now in desperation
you
are demanding shut down
of
the entire government
Huntsman:
Bob Corker is a hero
for standing
up to the crazies
Gregory:
he is awesome
Huntsman:
we created health insurance
exchanges
in Utah to see if it works
Gregory:
forget the substance – look at politics
Huntsman:
you are petty
Gregory:
I love petty politics
Matthews:
Obama is not going to
compromise on
his greatest achievement
Huntsman:
government shutdown is
a
loser for Republicans
Labrador:
that's true
Huntsman:
so why do it
Labrador:
Democrats want a government
shutdown
so they can blame Republicans
who
want a shutdown
Gregory:
I see
Labrador:
John Boehner is willing to negotiate
Gregory:
John Boehner hates your guts
Labrador:
Tip O'Neill shut down the
government
10 times
Matthews:
that's not true
Gregory:
why can't Obama shut down
the
government over something he wants?
Labrador:
you're taking away our
First Amendment
right to protest
Matthews:
you're crazy
Labrador:
Obama crammed his law down
the
throats of American people by using
Democracy
which is unfair
Matthews:
but holding the government
hostage
is fair?
Labrador:
exactly!
Myers:
people will like Obamacare
Gregory:
will you refuse to raise the debt
ceiling
over Obamacare?
Labrador:
no I will refuse to pay America's
bills
to get what I want on other issues
Gregory:
Chris you have a book about
compromise
in politics – Ted Cruz hates that
Matthews:
Tip O'Neil and Reagan were
both
popular and both compromised
Gregory:
amazing
Matthews:
O'Neil and Reagan were
drinking
buddies after 6:00 p.m.
Gregory:
alcohol – is the no problem
it can't solve?
Matthews:
Maybe Obama and Boehner
could
smoke together – ha!
Gregory:
McConnell and Rand Paul
could
bond over meth
Matthews:
no you're talking
Gregory:
sadly the Tip/Gipper are gone
and
now politicians demand what they want
or
the government shuts down
Matthews:
it was old-fashioned horse trading
Gregory:
what is Obama's
problem with horseplay?
Matthews:
Reagan was better at
connecting
with other politicians also
he
was popular with white people
Gregory:
good point
Matthews:
one was a passionate conservative
and
another a die-hard liberal but they
both
liked each other
Gregory:
mister we could use
two
old Irishmen again!
Matthews: those were the days!
