Guests:
Gov.
Jon Kasich (R-OH)
Rep.
Tom Davis (R-CA)
Nuala
O'Connor – President
of the
Center
for Democracy & Technology
Chris
Matthews
Sara
Fagen
Amy
Walter
Manu
Raju
Todd:
aww Beau Biden died
from
brain cancer at age 46
Todd:
he was three years old
when
he was injured in a car
accident
and his father was sworn in
Beau
Biden: my brother and I
were
what all my dad cared about
Biden:
he was the finest man
any
of us have ever known
Todd:
John Kerry broke his leg
bicycling
in France
Reporter:
he had just met
with
the Iran foreign minister
Todd:
wow
stunning news –
well
respected
lobbyist Dennis Hastert
arrested
for laundering money
Williams:
he's not charged with
his
old horrifying
crimes –
just
new unseemly ones
Todd:
what did he do
Williams:
the feds
claim he evaded
cash
withdrawal reporting requirements
Todd:
they didn't even
arrest
his
evil blackmailer
Williams:
well Hastert doesn't
claim
he was extorted
Todd:
so what's the offense?
Williams:
withdrawing cash
and
lying to the FBI
Todd:
is that a crime?
Williams:
Martha
Stewart
went
to prison for less than that
Todd:
I thought that
some
home fashion crime
Williams:
don't lie to the FBI Chuck!
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Todd:
only shit as Alanis
Morrisette
would
say isn't it ironic Hastert pushed
through
money-laundering laws and
only
Speaker because of
sex scandals!
Davis:
yeah but he was a pillar of integrity
Todd:
explain how shocked you are
Davis:
you knock
me over with a feather
[
Todd pokes with a feather ]
Davis:
ow!
Todd:
just checking
Davis:
quit it
Todd:
this is very sad for
all of us
Voter:
I'm not
surprised at all
–
all
members of Congress
are
perverts and criminals
Todd:
I defend Congress to voters
and
then this happens and I look like a jackasses
Audience:
that ship already sailed Todd
Davis:
this isn't going to help
the
reputation of Congress
Todd:
everyone in Congress
is a crook
–
is
there something in the water?
Davis:
Congress have always
been
criminals
– I blame twitter
for
pointing it out
Todd:
that sounds about
right
Davis:
in the good old days
people
just
didn't talk about little infractions
like
child molesting
Todd:
I can't defend Washington
anymore!
It's outrageous!
Matthews:
people can forgive an
extra-marital
affair if at politicians
least
they
got something done but Congress
is
sleazy and corrupt
and useless too
Matthews:
but there are some
good
members of Congress too
Todd:
but it sure doesn't
look that way
Fagen:
it's a vicious cycle – being in
Congress
is such a disgusting job
only
total jerks are willing to do it
Todd:
here's a question – how does
Dennis
Hastert end up with $12 million?
Raju:
his wealth from
lobbying
exposes
the unseemly side of former
members
of Congress openly selling
access
to the government for money
Walter:
we should remember the real victims here
Matthews:
members of Congress who lead good lives!
Todd:
yes they are victims too
Walter:
[ eyeroll ]
[
break ]
Todd:
should be Bernie Sanders
be
written off or could he have a
real
impact on who the next President
will
be – let's look at history
Todd:
in 1968 Gene McCarthy and
his
pack of hippies engineered
a
stunning
repudiation
of LBJ and Vietnam
Todd:
it pushed Johnson out
and
drew Bobby Kennedy in
Todd:
RFK was killed and we got
Nixon
and more war and Watergate
Todd:
then upstart Gary
Hart beat
Mondale
in New Hampshire which
made
Mondale look foolish and we
got
Reagan and George H.W. Bush
Todd:
then in
2012 Rick Santorum
beat
Romney in Iowa
– and Romney
never
recovered and got
Obama maybe Hillary
Audience:
so challengers
equal
success for the other side?
Todd:
welcome Bernie Sanders
Sanders:
good morning Charles!
Todd:
thanks –- I know
you have to
rush
back to D.C. for
some sort of
re-authorization
of the Patriot Act which
I
gather is about deflated footballs or something
Sanders:
I voted against the original
Patriot Act!
Todd:
you one of the only
ones who did
Sanders:
we have to protect the Constitution!
Todd:
that onld thing?
Sanders:
we're losing our privacy rights!
Todd:
are you comfortable with
allowing
the phone company to
keep
our phone records?
Sanders:
they already have it Chuck
Todd:
no one tells me anything
Sanders:
well where did you
think
the NSA got them from?
Todd:
who was more progressive – Bill Clinton or Obama
Sanders:
I like Obama but we
have
45 million living in poverty
Todd:
aha so Clinton
Sanders:
I like Obama and
history
will judge him well
Todd:
so you
like Obama hate
Bill Clinton?
Sanders:
no he was pretty good President
too
Todd:
So you like Clinton
and hate Obama?
Sanders:
Clinton was not good
on
NAFTA
and de-regulated
Wall Street
which
led the 2008 Great Recession
Todd:
well who do you dislike then?
Sanders
right now – you
Todd:
it seems like Hillary is moving
toward
your positions on a lot of issues
Sanders:
I know Clinton and I
respect
her and I like her and you
keep
trying to make me bash her
Todd:
so do it
Sanders:
I want this election to be
about
the issues and the things
I
have been warning about for 30 years
Todd:
listen hippie
bash Hillary
or
get off my show
Sanders:
I've been proven
right
about
everything for decades
Todd:
you wrote some weird
essay
on rape in 1972
Sanders:
it's a 43 year-old attempt
to
write '50
Shades of Grey'
Todd:
well it sucks
Sanders:
we need more debates
–
even
in July! With
Republicans!
Todd:
why not right here on my show?
Sanders:
why not!
Todd:
I love it!
[
break ]
Todd:
omg Scott Walker is leading
in
all the polls and
poor Lindsay
Graham
is stuck at
1%
Todd:
welcome Rick
Santorum
Santorum:
hello Charles
Todd:
people know you and
they don't
like you
Santorum:
true but I have many
volunteers
many of whom do not
have
sexual repression issues
Todd:
if the phone companies keep
our
phone records will we all be killed?
Santorum:
I love the Patriot Act
which
violated no one's privacy ever
Todd:
Mike Huckabee says if the
Supreme
Court rule for the
gays the
states
for should ignore their godless ways
Santorum:
I like the Supreme Court
but
they're not gods – they're just
nine
old out of touch idiots
Todd:
so would you accept
a
pro-gay ruling or fight it
Santorum:
I'd fight it – we're not
bound
by
what nine perverts say about gays
Todd:
but
you wouldn't ignore the
ruling
and declare judicial
review invalid
over
your boiling hatred of homosexuals
Santorum:
no I wouldn't but I
would
continue
to fight the
gays with every
boner
in my body
Todd:
you're working yourself into a lather
Santorum:
I just get so angry about
those
muscular men and their bodies
glistening
with sweat touching and
sorry
what were we talking about
Todd:
you want to raise the minimum
wage
– but most
Republicans don't
Santorum:
Barack Obama's liberal
policies
turned around the
Republican
recession
but what about the poor
people!
Todd:
they're very nice
Santorum:
Obama wants to bring in
immigrants
to repress wages and
buy
more votes
Todd:
wow you think Democrats
just
favor more
immigration to
get
more voters?
Santorum:
liberals used to anti-immigrant
and
now they're not it's
so sad
Todd:
but you still are
Santorum:
darn right!
Todd:
thanks for coming
[
break ]
Todd:
welcome Jon Kasich
Kasich:
I just want to say
Joe
Biden is a real stand-up guy
–
god
bless you Joe
Todd:
that's classy of you Jon
Todd:
are you running for President?
Kasich:
yes but only because
frankly
I'm better than everyone else
Todd:
that checks out
Kasich:
I don't want to
run
but America needs me
Todd:
I put you in the “Jeb Bush Bracket”
but
you hate that guy
Kasich:
I like Jeb
Todd:
no you don't
Kasich:
I balanced the budget and reformed the military
Todd:
most
impressive
Kasich:
I was in business for 10 years and now I'm a Governor
Todd:
not too shabby
Kasich:
Washington, business, Governor
–
I've
got the best resume since
John
Quincy Adams!
Todd:
is the death penalty dead?
Kasich:
let's not forget the victims –
grieving
families need to have
someone
killed to feel better
Todd:
they do?
Kasich:
yes without some more
killing
you can't get closure
Todd:
you're a deeply religious Catholic
which
disapproves the death penalty
Kasich:
I have a job to do in Ohio which
is
to oversee executions as soon we get
our
hands on the right lethal drugs
Todd:
thanks for coming
[
break ]
Todd:
Panel?
Fagen:
Bernie Sanders is going
to
make this race very difficult
for
Clinton and she's losing!
Todd:
Santorum ruined Romney
–
will
Sanders do they same to do Clinton?
Matthews:
screw that – Hillary should
be
authentic and be herself which is a centrist Democrat
Todd:
Kasich is aiming for New Hampshire
Walter:
he's got a good resume but
can
he win over crazy primary voters?
Todd:
good question
Walter:
Scott Walker is from
the midwest
too
and conservatives really like him
Fagen:
Walker is polling well
but
he's kind of a doofus
Raju:
candidates
need a
billionaires
to adopt them
Todd:
omg the NSA can access
your
telephone records which your
local
police department can also
do
but never mind
Todd:
welcome Nuala O'Connor
from
the Center for Technology and Security
O'Connor:
actually it's the Center
for
Democracy and Technology
Todd:
whatever Nora
O'Connor:
the NSA has been
collecting
and
storing the records of every
phone
call
in America which
is too much
Todd:
so should the phone companies
collect
it all and then hand
it over on an as-needed basis?
O'Connor:
the government can
already
use
subpoenas and
warrants –
we
don't need wholesale mass surveillance
Todd:
but what
if the phone companies say 'no'?
O'Connor:
we need limited
legitimate
targeted searches
Todd:
thanks for coming Nala
[
break ]
Todd:
the death penalty
is
no longer popular
Walter:
right
Todd:
lawmakers are actually
ahead
of the public on this issue
Walter:
because it's
about
saving money
Raju:
but there
are still aggressive
pro-killing
politicians
Fagen:
when you have so many
people
released from death row it
makes
you stop and think hey
maybe
this is a bad idea
Todd:
in the 1990s you had to
be
for the death penalty –
that's
how Bill Clinton and
George
Pataki both got
elected
Matthews:
I have no opinion but
Jon
Kasich puts a tingle up my leg
Todd:
what the hell is wrong
with
Mitch McConnell?
Raju:
he's against the USA Freedom Act
even
though it's the only thing that can pass
Fagen:
Republicans love invasive searches
Matthews:
kids today don't pay
taxes
but
they live on their
smart phones
Todd:
today is Bob Schieffer's last day
and
he's the kind of great anchor we
all
aspire to be but
never seem to
Schieffer:
purple socks!
Todd:
and that's another
episode
of Meet The Press