Eric Adams - Brooklyn Borough President
David Boies – Lawyer for Sony
Kal Penn - actor
Bill Richardson - (D-NM)
Michael Chertoff – fmr Bush White House
Director of Homeland Security
Michael Leiter – Counter-terrorism official
Christopher Hill – fmr. Amb. to South Korea
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Sarah Fagan – fmr Bush WH political director
John Nolte – Breitbart News
Todd: holy shit two New York City
cops were shot while sitting in their car
Todd: the killer came from
Baltimore and hated cops
Todd: the union head says the
Mayor has blood on his hands
Adams: we need to come together to heal
Todd: I see
Adams: I was a cop for 22
years so I know hard it is
Todd: are protesters to
blame for the murders?
Adams: not at all – the blame is
on the murderer
Todd: you disappoint me
Adams: innocent people
should not die in America
Todd: c'mon say something
Todd: how do you fix the trust issue
between Mayor and the cops
Adams: It doesn't need fixing -
cops just need to get up every
day and do their jobs
Todd: are you concerned that this
killing of two cops will stop reform?
Adams: no because this is a movement
– we're not going to let one sick individual
stop us from improving relations between
police and the community
[ break ]
Todd: who could have guessed
Seth Rogan would start WWIII?
Obama: we can't let dictators dictate
which piece of recycled crap
Hollywood pushes on us
Sony: we so did not cave!
Obama: the North Korea leaders
are a bunch of big babies
Rob Lowe: Sony is just like
Obama: Boston still ran the marathon !
Todd: David what's your take on Dear Hacker
Boies: look movie theaters got
very specific threats of violence
Todd: fair point
Boies: no one stood up for Sony
when it counted
Todd: Obama says he would have
called the movie theaters personally
and told them to show the movie
and also be honest and just start
serving popcorn in buckets
Boies: this is a state sponsored
attack on Americans!
Boies: if the NSA exposed someone's
e-mails the whole internet would
have been outraged
Todd: was this terrorism?
Boies: this was a state-sponsored
attack on privacy and people should
stop aiding and abetting it
Todd: could Sony be sued if a
movie theater was attacked?
Boies: maybe – but look these were real
threats and no one stepped up to defend
Sony when the threats were public
Todd: should the government pass
a law saying Sony can't be sued?
Boies: the FBI has been good but
the whole government needs to
get behind stopping these attacks
Todd: should the President
said Sony made a mistake?
Boies: it was good he said we can't
have state-sponsored attacks on Americans
Boies: but he should have blasted
the attack earlier instead of blaming the victim
Todd: did Sony's decision to cancel
the movie bother your fellow actors?
Penn: look I feel bad for Sony but
it sets a bad precedent
Todd: what else could they do?
Penn: they could it on pay-per-view
if they wanted
Todd: is Sony getting what they deserve?
Penn: hey I made a movie about two
dudes in Gitmo and we mocked
George W. Bush
Todd: you're a conservative
but you defended Sony
Nolte: it's not Sony's job to fight
terrorists – it's their job to make money
Todd: some banks make money
working with terrorists
Nolte: the government should shield
Sony from liability and then we can
all go see the movie
Matthews: Obama had to be Churchill!
Todd: go on Chris
Matthews: we have to be resilient!
Todd: yeah but there are still
active lawsuits from 9/11
Matthews: I get it – Sony should
get double indemnity - ha!
Todd: who knew North Korea could do this?
Richardson: I sure didn't
Todd: was it terrorism?
Richardson: we need to lean on China
Todd: will this have a chilling effect
and will Hollywood start turning out
derivative crap and terrible remakes and
endless shitty sequels instead the wonderful
inspiring creative art they are known for?
Penn: it's possible Todd
Todd: why are you the only
one who is willing to speak out publicly
Penn: I dunno – why not speak out?
Todd: are actors scared?
Penn: no it's just hard to know else
there is to say – the hack is bad and
the movie should be released if possible
Todd: okay then
[ break ]
Leiter: if it took a Sony hack to get
action on cyber-security there's a silver lining
Todd: was this terrorism?
Chertoff: yes – it destroyed things
and threatened violence in order
to change behavior
Todd: what can we do?
Hill: North Korea has a third-world economy
but half of all North Koreans are
employed as cyber-terrorists
Todd: so what do we do?
Hill: we must take our revenge in secret!
Todd: should we attack back with
our own cyber-attack?
Leiter: Chuck we live a cyber-glass house!
Todd: is cyber-war unethical?
Chertoff: no it's awesome!
Chertoff: we should send in a
covert team to kill Kim Jong-un
Todd: like Seal Team Six
Chertoff: they'd never get far –
they would need a deep cover
Todd: like maybe a couple of
athletes or entertainers
Chertoff: right – then they sneak
out and assassinate him
Todd: we could make a movie about it
Chertoff: right – we could call it 'Getting Kim'
or 'A Movie About Two Bumbling Guys
Who Kill The Leader of North Korea'
Todd: problem solved
Chertoff: Obama claims he got this
great climate deal with China just to
save the planet and here Americans
can't see the new Seth Rogen comedy
– was it really worth it??
Hill: China is fed up with North Korea
and and is totally sick of their shit
[ break ]
Todd: omg Obama is going to
win the Spanish-American war
Todd: Cuban history began in 1959
when the U.S. welcomed Fidel Castro
Todd: here is Castro on Meet The Press
[ plays black and white tape ]
Castro: I see Nixon beating Kennedy
– also go Buffalo Bills!
Todd: then JFK invaded with an
army of pigs alienating Cuban-Americans
for a generation
Todd: then the world was nearly destroyed
in a global thermonuclear war but at the
last minute Matthew Broderick stopped it
Todd: then Castro sent us all his criminals
creating a generation of Florida politicians
Todd: then Congress passed the embargo
and America was divided by Elian Gonzalez
and Republicans hated jack-booted government thugs
Todd: then in 2008 candidate Obama
observed the embargo has failed
[ break [
Todd: good morning Marco
Rubio: hi Todd
Rubio: did the embargo work?
Rubio: that's not the point
Todd: it's not?
Rubio: no the point is freedom
Todd: so you admit the embargo failed?
Rubio: the point of the embargo
was not to work – it was leverage
to get democracy and freedom in Cuba
Todd: but the U.S. has normal relations
with China and Vietnam
Rubio: exactly - we have trade with China
and they have no free internet now
Todd: so as President you would
have an embargo with China?
Rubio: don't be silly – where would Wal-Mart
get all their cheap goods?
Todd: I need 50 socks for $5
Rubio: Obama has betrayed us all!
Todd: you say Obama is soft on
Rubio: that's right
Todd: but he just increased sanctions
on Venezuela so that is isn't true
Rubio: exactly – Obama is a hypocrite too!
Todd: Rand Paul called you an isolationist
Rubio: he's objectively pro-Obama
Todd: I see
Rubio: look I just want Cuba to be from
an autocratic nutty leader and free and
fair elections and if it works there we
might even try it in Florida
Todd: would run against Jeb Bush?
Rubio: yes because he's kind of a doofus
Todd: thanks for coming
[ break ]
Todd: in polls only Mitt Romney
does better than Jeb Bush
Todd: but Rand Paul pulls in
moderates and tea partiers
Todd: meanwhile Hillary is polling in at 80%
but if she doesn't run Elizabeth Warren
does well with the same group that
supported Paul Tsongas and
Gary Hart and Bill Bradley
Audience: um okay
Todd: Jeb Bush is running –
Sarah you're from BushWorld –
that must be kind of exciting and terrifying
Fagen: there was huge cheer in the room
when Jeb said 'I will run and start four wars'!
Todd: Nolte you're a big wingnut
- what do you think?
Nolte: Jeb pissed off the base and
that didn't work for McCain or Mittens
Fagen: Jeb was a tea partier
before there was a tea party –
I swear he's really crazy!
Richardson: he could do well because
he's got a Hispanic wife
Todd: he speaks better Spanish than Hillary
Fagen: and better English than George
Richardson: Cuba should release
their political prisoners
Matthews: Peggy Noonan supports
this Cuba deal so I do too
Todd: are we going to have another
Bush – Clinton race?
Todd: is it un-American to have
Matthews: who else can the GOP nominate
– at least the Democrats have Elizabeth
Warren waiting in the wings
Nolte: Scott Walker can unite the party
– he's an asshole from a swing state
Nolte: Common Core will sink Jeb Bush
Todd: omg Obama called on only
Fagen: The Bush White House had
more women than Obama!
Todd: and that's another
episode of Meet The Press