Meet The Press – December 21, 2014

Guests:

Eric Adams - Brooklyn Borough President

David Boies – Lawyer for Sony

Kal Penn - actor

Chris Matthews

Bill Richardson - (D-NM)

Michael Chertoff – fmr Bush White House

Director of Homeland Security

Michael Leiter – Counter-terrorism official

Christopher Hill – fmr. Amb. to South Korea

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)

Sarah Fagan – fmr Bush WH political director

John Nolte – Breitbart News

Todd: holy shit two New York City

cops were shot while sitting in their car

Todd: the killer came from

Baltimore and hated cops

Todd: the union head says the

Mayor has blood on his hands

Adams: we need to come together to heal

Todd: I see

Adams: I was a cop for 22

years so I know hard it is

Todd: are protesters to 

blame for the murders?

Adams: not at all – the blame is 

on the murderer

Todd: you disappoint me

Adams: innocent people

should not die in America

Todd: c'mon say something

horribly controversial

Adams: no

Todd: how do you fix the trust issue

between Mayor and the cops

Adams: It doesn't need fixing -

cops just need to get up every

day and do their jobs

Todd: are you concerned that this

killing of two cops will stop reform?

Adams: no because this is a movement

– we're not going to let one sick individual

stop us from improving relations between

police and the community

[ break ]

Todd: who could have guessed

Seth Rogan would start WWIII?

Obama: we can't let dictators dictate

which piece of recycled crap 

Hollywood pushes on us

Sony: we so did not cave!

McCain: grrrr!!!

Obama: the North Korea leaders

are a bunch of big babies

Rob Lowe: Sony is just like 

Neville Chamberlain!

Obama: Boston still ran the marathon !

Todd: David what's your take on Dear Hacker

Boies: look movie theaters got

very specific threats of violence

Todd: fair point

Boies: no one stood up for Sony 

when it counted

Todd: Obama says he would have

called the movie theaters personally

and told them to show the movie

and also be honest and just start

serving popcorn in buckets

Boies: this is a state sponsored 

attack on Americans!

Todd: wow!

Boies: if the NSA exposed someone's

e-mails the whole internet would

have been outraged

Todd: was this terrorism?

Boies: this was a state-sponsored

attack on privacy and people should

stop aiding and abetting it

Todd: could Sony be sued if a

movie theater was attacked?

Boies: maybe – but look these were real

threats and no one stepped up to defend

Sony when the threats were public

Todd: should the government pass

a law saying Sony can't be sued?

Boies: the FBI has been good but

the whole government needs to

get behind stopping these attacks

Todd: should the President

said Sony made a mistake?

Boies: it was good he said we can't

have state-sponsored attacks on Americans

Todd: okay

Boies: but he should have blasted

the attack earlier instead of blaming the victim

Todd: did Sony's decision to cancel

the movie bother your fellow actors?

Penn: look I feel bad for Sony but 

it sets a bad precedent

Todd: what else could they do?

Penn: they could it on pay-per-view 

if they wanted

Todd: is Sony getting what they deserve?

Penn: hey I made a movie about two

dudes in Gitmo and we mocked 

George W. Bush

Todd: you're a conservative

but you defended Sony

Nolte: it's not Sony's job to fight

terrorists – it's their job to make money

Todd: some banks make money

working with terrorists

Nolte: the government should shield

Sony from liability and then we can

all go see the movie

Matthews: Obama had to be Churchill!

Todd: go on Chris

Matthews: we have to be resilient!

Todd: yeah but there are still

active lawsuits from 9/11

Matthews: I get it – Sony should 

get double indemnity - ha!

Todd: who knew North Korea could do this?

Richardson: I sure didn't

Todd: was it terrorism?

Richardson: we need to lean on China

Todd: will this have a chilling effect

and will Hollywood start turning out

derivative crap and terrible remakes and

endless shitty sequels instead the wonderful

inspiring creative art they are known for?

Penn: it's possible Todd

Todd: why are you the only

one who is willing to speak out publicly

Penn: I dunno – why not speak out?

Todd: are actors scared?

Penn: no it's just hard to know else

there is to say – the hack is bad and

the movie should be released if possible

Todd: okay then

[ break ]

Leiter: if it took a Sony hack to get

action on cyber-security there's a silver lining

Todd: was this terrorism?

Chertoff: yes – it destroyed things 

and threatened violence in order 

to change behavior

Todd: what can we do?

Hill: North Korea has a third-world economy

but half of all North Koreans are 

employed as cyber-terrorists

Todd: so what do we do?

Hill: we must take our revenge in secret!

Todd: should we attack back with 

our own cyber-attack?

Leiter: Chuck we live a cyber-glass house!

Todd: is cyber-war unethical?

Chertoff: no it's awesome!

Todd: okay

Chertoff: we should send in a 

covert team to kill Kim Jong-un

Todd: like Seal Team Six

Chertoff: they'd never get far – 

they would need a deep cover

Todd: like maybe a couple of 

athletes or entertainers

Chertoff: right – then they sneak 

out and assassinate him

Todd: we could make a movie about it

Chertoff: right – we could call it 'Getting Kim' 

or 'A Movie About Two Bumbling Guys 

Who Kill The Leader of North Korea'

Todd: problem solved

Chertoff: Obama claims he got this

great climate deal with China just to

save the planet and here Americans

can't see the new Seth Rogen comedy

– was it really worth it??

Hill: China is fed up with North Korea

and and is totally sick of their shit

Todd: interesting

[ break ]

Todd: omg Obama is going to

win the Spanish-American war

Todd: Cuban history began in 1959

when the U.S. welcomed Fidel Castro

Todd: here is Castro on Meet The Press

[ plays black and white tape ]

Castro: I see Nixon beating Kennedy

– also go Buffalo Bills!

Todd: then JFK invaded with an

army of pigs alienating Cuban-Americans

for a generation

Todd: then the world was nearly destroyed

in a global thermonuclear war but at the

last minute Matthew Broderick stopped it

Todd: then Castro sent us all his criminals

creating a generation of Florida politicians

Todd: then Congress passed the embargo

and America was divided by Elian Gonzalez

and Republicans hated jack-booted government thugs

Todd: then in 2008 candidate Obama

observed the embargo has failed

[ break [

Todd: good morning Marco

Rubio: hi Todd

Rubio: did the embargo work?

Rubio: that's not the point

Todd: it's not?

Rubio: no the point is freedom

Todd: so you admit the embargo failed?

Rubio: the point of the embargo

was not to work – it was leverage

to get democracy and freedom in Cuba

Todd: but the U.S. has normal relations 

with China and Vietnam

Rubio: exactly - we have trade with China

and they have no free internet now

Todd: so as President you would

have an embargo with China?

Rubio: don't be silly – where would Wal-Mart

get all their cheap goods?

Todd: I need 50 socks for $5

Rubio: Obama has betrayed us all!

Todd: you say Obama is soft on 

left-wing dictators

Rubio: that's right

Todd: but he just increased sanctions

on Venezuela so that is isn't true

Rubio: exactly – Obama is a hypocrite too!

Todd: Rand Paul called you an isolationist

Rubio: he's objectively pro-Obama

Todd: I see

Rubio: look I just want Cuba to be from

an autocratic nutty leader and free and

fair elections and if it works there we

might even try it in Florida

Todd: would run against Jeb Bush?

Rubio: yes because he's kind of a doofus

Todd: thanks for coming

[ break ]

Todd: in polls only Mitt Romney

does better than Jeb Bush

Todd: but Rand Paul pulls in

moderates and tea partiers

Todd: meanwhile Hillary is polling in at 80%

but if she doesn't run Elizabeth Warren

does well with the same group that

supported Paul Tsongas and 

Gary Hart and Bill Bradley

Audience: um okay

Todd: Jeb Bush is running –

Sarah you're from BushWorld –

that must be kind of exciting and terrifying

Fagen: there was huge cheer in the room

when Jeb said 'I will run and start four wars'!

Todd: Nolte you're a big wingnut 

- what do you think?

Nolte: Jeb pissed off the base and

that didn't work for McCain or Mittens

Fagen: Jeb was a tea partier

before there was a tea party –

I swear he's really crazy!

Richardson: he could do well because

he's got a Hispanic wife

Todd: he speaks better Spanish than Hillary

Fagen: and better English than George

Richardson: Cuba should release

their political prisoners

Matthews: Peggy Noonan supports

this Cuba deal so I do too

Todd: are we going to have another 

Bush – Clinton race?

Fagen: probably

Todd: is it un-American to have 

family dynasties?

Matthews: who else can the GOP nominate

– at least the Democrats have Elizabeth

Warren waiting in the wings

Nolte: Scott Walker can unite the party

– he's an asshole from a swing state

Todd: interesting

Nolte: Common Core will sink Jeb Bush

Todd: omg Obama called on only 

female reporters!

Fagen: The Bush White House had

more women than Obama!

Todd: and that's another

episode of Meet The Press