Guests:
Pete
Williams
Jim
DeMint
Ralph
Reed
Rachel
Maddow
Michael
Eric Dyson
Rep.
Tim Huelskamp (R-KS)
Rep.
Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
State
Sen. Wendy Davis (D-TX)
Gregory:
good morning – Obama is in
South
Africa praising Nelson Mandela
for
even with decades in prison to refuse
to
give up on his faith in humanity
Audience:
tough call
Gregory:
DOMA was overturned!
Maddow:
the court could have
decided
the case on federalism grounds
but
it went all the way with equal protection
Gregory:
Kennedy says DOMA
demeans
gay couples and that is wrong
Williams:
he used the word “dignity”
ten
times – but he also said DOMA
demeans the dignity of states which
we
all care about so much
Reed:
this court specifically rejected
the
argument that there is a right
to
be gay married
Gregory:
they skipped over it
Reed:
look Fluffy most people in
America don't like gay people
America don't like gay people
Dyson:
do you know
it
was illegal for black people to
be
married in America for many years
Gregory:
you had to shack up?
Dyson:
if you polled America in 1965 you
would have found opposition to civil rights
would have found opposition to civil rights
Gregory:
are you intolerant of gay people?
DeMint:
Kennedy is denying dignity
to
millions of Americans who don't
like
gay people
Gregory:
what a great argument
DeMint:
look gay marriage is better for children
Maddow:
Justice Kennedy wrote that
anti-gay
marriage laws demeans
children
of gay couples
Maddow:
look gay people exist -
you can't make them go away so
you try to demean them by taking
away their right to marry
you can't make them go away so
you try to demean them by taking
away their right to marry
Reed:
by that argument you
could
say that people like Barack Obama
were intolerant 14 months ago
Maddow:
so?
Reed:
gay people are icky!
Dyson:
people used to oppose civil rights
for
African-Americans too
Reed:
we're not bigots!
Maddow:
lighten up Ralphie
Williams:
the court side-stepped
the
core question of equal rights for gay people
Gregory:
you have proposed a
Constitution
ban on gay marriage
– how
is that going?
Huelskamp: the Supreme Court
re-wrote
the Constitution – it's outrageous!
Gregory:
wow
Huelskamp:
also we should outlaw abortion?
Gregory:
what do you have against gay marriage
Huelskamp:
look I like gay people
but
God hates them – what are you going do?
Gregory: sound reasoning
Huelskamp:
also children need a man and woman
Gregory:
the research shows kids
need
loving marriages regardless
Huelskamp:
we have an epidemic of fatherlessness
Gregory:
what does that have
to
do with gay couples?
Huelskamp:
think of the children!
Gregory:
Mike Huckabee wrote
after
the DOMA ruling 'Jesus Wept'
Huelskamp:
he cries at weddings
Huelskamp:
the real issue is who
gets
to decide – people who hate
gay
people or a bunch of justices?
Gregory:
will this energize Republicans?
Reed:
yes – we're going to amend the
Iowa
Constitution to outlaw gay marriage
Maddow:
you tried that and failed dipshit
Reed:
true but we had a record
turnout
of evangelicals
Maddow:
and you still lost!
[break]
Gregory:
what about gay marriage
in
every state?
Pelosi:
the goal should be no
discrimination
– that's what
America
is all about
Gregory:
but people do oppose it in Arkansas
Pelosi:
yes but things are changing fast Fluffy
Gregory:
what do you say to
people
who say God told them
to
oppose gay equality
Pelosi:
we are a nation that does not discriminate
Gregory:
what about the Voting Rights Act?
Pelosi:
we're going to try and fix it
Gregory:
can immigration reform pass the House?
Pelosi:
congrats to the Senate
Gregory:
you called John Boehner
'weak'
and a 'dumbass'
Pelosi:
since 2012 election the
GOP
has suddenly realized that
they
need hispanic votes if they
ever
want to win another Presidential election
Gregory:
Texas wants to limits abortion rights
Pelosi:
The GOP want to intrude
in
women's health and take away
the
decision and hand it to the government
Gregory:
do you fear a new
age
of erosion of abortion rights?
Pelosi:
it's also contraception and
family
planning
Gregory:
you were booed for not
calling
Edward Snowden a hero
Pelosi:
he did break the law
Gregory:
he's no hero in your mind
Pelosi:
no
Gregory:
but since Obama was
re-elected
I care about the
so-called
'surveillance state'
Pelosi:
we should respect the Constitution
Gregory:
ok
Bush
broke the law and under
Obama
we legalized surveillance
Gregory:
well there is a debate about
whether
Obama is worse than Bush
Pelosi:
should Obama scramble jets to get Snowden
Pelosi:
I'm happy he's stuck in a Moscow airport
Gregory:
they have a great duty-free shop though
Pelosi:
he ran to China and Moscow
– that
should tell people he's no hero
Gregory:
are you endorsing Hillary in 2016?
Pelosi:
I'd like to see a woman President
but first we have to end GOP obstruction
but first we have to end GOP obstruction
Gregory:
what about the VRA?
DeMint:
black people are voting
like
crazy – Congress cannot rely
on
50 year-old data!
Maddow:
if you thought it was 50 year-old
data
why did you vote for it Senator?
DeMint:
um... it's a good law
Dyson:
a bipartisan Congress thought
in
2006 the VRA was just fine
Reed:
discrimination against anyone
but
gay people is wrong
Gregory:
is there a bipartisan basis
to
fix the VRA?
Williams:
in theory - yes but in reality no
Gregory:
welcome Senator Davis
Davis:
the fight continues!
Gregory:
even women want to
ban
abortion at 20 weeks
Davis:
this bill would leave Texas
with
only 5 abortion clinics in the entire state!
Gregory:
well that's still better than nothing
Davis:
the College of Obstetricians
and
Gynecologists says this bill
will
hurt women's health
Gregory:
would you accept a 20 week ban?
Davis:
what about giving women the choice
rather than a government bureaucrat?
rather than a government bureaucrat?
Gregory:
some of my best friends are bureaucrats
Davis:
I'm sure they are
Gregory:
Governor Perry says because
you
didn't have an abortion and went
to
Harvard Law school we should ban abortion
Davis:
I got to make my own choices
and
I'm fighting to give all women those choices
Gregory:
anything else?
Davis:
he's a moron
Gregory:
what about the Supreme Court
Williams:
the court may overturn
Roe v Wade next term
DeMint:
women are being killed by
illegal
abortions so we should have more of them
Gregory:
right
DeMint:
also we should give women
the
opportunity to have ultrasound
Maddow:
this is not an opportunity
to
have an ultrasound – but Jim DeMint
insists
that he force women to have a
vaginal
ultrasound because he's from
the
government and he's here to help
DeMint:
it's a not required it's an opportunity
Maddow:
it's mandated by the state you idiot
Reed:
look if we have to have U.N.
troops
in black helicopters with guns
drawn
breaking down the doors of doctors'
offices
that's just the way it has to be
Maddow:
wow
Gregory:
and that's another
episode
of Meet The Press
