Guests:
Minority
Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
Sen.
Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
Ezra
Klein
Dan Henninger
Mike
Murphy
Kathleen
Parker
Tom
Brokaw
Chris Matthews
Gregory:
OMG the Republican House
passed
a bill to change Obamacare!
Gregory:
are Democrats fleeing Obamacare?
Pelosi:
no
Gregory:
but Democrats are frustrated
Pelosi:
some of them
Gregory:
aren't Democrats losing confidence
in Obama?
in Obama?
Pelosi:
no
Gregory:
but
Pelosi:
calm down Fluffy
Gregory:
but Obamacare
Pelosi:
I call it the ACA because I got it through
Gregory:
okay Nancy
Pelosi:
the law does not require these
cancellations
– the laws says if you had a
plan
before the law was enacted you
could
keep it and that's still true
Gregory:
would you or other Democrats
actually
campaign on Obamacare?
Pelosi:
the ACA
Gregory:
whatever
Pelosi:
it's working in Kentucky – it saves lives
Gregory:
but people are mad
Pelosi:
so the President is going to let
people
stay on their crappy plans but the
insurer
must inform people that they
have
better options
Gregory:
but one million cancellation
notices
have gone out in California
Pelosi:
and they will get second
letter correcting that
letter correcting that
Gregory:
did you lie to people in 2010
Pelosi:
no
Gregory:
but if your plan doesn't meet
government
standards then you can't keep it
Pelosi:
you can if it pre-dates the law
Gregory:
Obama apologized – why don't you?
Pelosi:
that's neither here nor there
Gregory:
this was a forseeable problem
Pelosi:
insurers must tell people they
have
better choices
Gregory:
in 2010 you said this would
be
awesome and it's not awesome
Pelosi:
I stand by what I said
Gregory:
okay
Pelosi:
we passed this law and it got
past
court challenges and we're going
to
keep fighting for this law
Gregory:
do you still consider this law a success?
Pelosi:
it will be
Gregory:
what is success?
Pelosi:
if people can sign up
Gregory:
why aren't you more
concerned
that this is a disaster?
Pelosi:
you can't be knocked for a
loop
over a little setback
Gregory:
will Democrats lose seats
over
Obamacare?
Pelosi:
remember the government shutdown?
That
was bad!
Gregory:
yes I recall that
Pelosi:
also in 2014 we will fight over jobs,
gay
rights and immigration reform
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Gregory:
welcome Kelly Ayotte -
you
hate the ACA
Ayotte:
my constituents are telling me
they
have less choice – there's only
one
insurer in New Hampshire
Gregory:
is your goal to repeal
the
ACA altogether?
Ayotte:
no Republicans voted for the ACA
so it
must be bad
Gregory:
are you open to fixing the law
and
how would you provide insurance for
40
uninsured million Americans?
Ayotte:
the first rule in politics is
First,
Do No Harm the Upper Middle Class
Gregory:
I knew that
Ayotte:
all we have to do is allow
people
buy insurance across state lines
Gregory:
what else?
Ayotte:
we have lots of good ideas
Gregory:
like what?
Ayotte:
lots of them
Gregory:
what are they?
Ayotte:
repeal Obamacare
Gregory:
what else?
Ayotte:
we have many ideas
Gregory:
thanks for coming Kelly
Gregory:
is Obamacare done for?
Klein:
it's not now – but they have time to get
the
website working and get people signed up
Gregory:
okay
Klein:
after all the Medicare D rollout was a disaster
Henninger:
this is really complicated and
there's
no way to fix it in two weeks
Gregory:
wow
Henninger:
they may lose an entire
generation
of young people who
will
grow up hating the government
Gregory:
won't insurers just raise premiums?
Klein:
the insurers will want healthy
people
signed up – that's where the money is
Gregory:
Doug you hate big government
and mandates
and mandates
Henninger:
FDR is being proved
wrong
by a slow website in 2013
Gregory:
I see
Henninger:
in the next two weeks people
will
abandon government after
80
years of giving it a chance
Klein:
Paul Ryan had exchanges in his plan too
Gregory:
thanks for coming guys
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break ]
Gregory:
this week Obama came out
and
said we fumbled the rollout
Brokaw:
I would have thought Obama
would
have been on top of this since
it
was so important to him
Gregory:
where is Obama's Bobby Kennedy
– where's
the muscle?
Matthews:
he should have had a Obamacare Czar
Murphy:
this is crackup and now we
have
the midterms coming up
Gregory:
fascinating
Murphy:
the GOP should now come up
with
their policies and run the table
Parker:
John Boehner told me that they
will
be on the attack for the rest of the year
Matthews:
the problem with the Katrina
analogy
is the Bush didn't do anything at all
– not
that he tried and failed
Brokaw:
also the GOP still has no plan
to fix health care
to fix health care
Murphy:
that's true – but now we are
allowed
to have an alternative
Gregory:
what will it be
Murphy:
take away from the poor and
give
to the middle class
Gregory:
people like the idea of not
having
pre-exising conditions
Matthews:
what if Obama goes to the
Republican
party and asks for money for Obamacare?
Parker:
they will say no
Gregory:
people say this is Obama's Katrina
– I
say it's more like Obama's Iraq
Parker:
no that was different Bush was a hero
Brokaw:
the American people don't trust
Obama
because he won in Syria
without
firing a shot
Murphy:
Obama is the most unpopular
politicians
of all time
Parker:
what if Obama had just agreed
to
delay Obamacare for a year in August?
Murphy:
the campaign is over –
now it's time to govern
now it's time to govern
Matthews:
the campaign never ends
Murphy:
that's true
Matthews:
it's only going to get nastier
Parker:
he's been getting bad advice
Brokaw:
people are scared of getting
a
terminal disease and they blame politicians
Gregory:
just want to be healthy and
never
pay for insurance – is that so hard?
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break ]
Gregory:
you made a documentary about
the
Kennedy assassination and
interviewed
Stephen Spielberg
Brokaw:
JFK was the perfect guy for his time,
following
Eisenhower, it was the tv age –
he
was young, glamouros, good looking,
and
left with all this unfinished business
Gregory:
the Kennedy assassination is
like
9/11 – nothing was same after
Matthews:
I studied the JFK the canny
politician
– he was trying get re-elected
while
working on a civil rights law
Brokaw:
I've talked to all his advisors
and
JFK was taking a hawkish line
through 1964 but probably wouldn't have
gone all-in in Vietnam
through 1964 but probably wouldn't have
gone all-in in Vietnam
Matthews:
he was hawkish – but would he
really
have put 500,000 troops in Vietnam
– I
don't think so
Gregory:
thanks for coming
Gregory:
Ha – Bill Clinton dissed
Obama
on health care
Parker:
ha ha the Clintons are totally
distancing
themselves
Brokaw:
don't forget they screwed up
health
care in 1993
Matthews:
Hillary Clinton is moving
to the right of Obama
to the right of Obama
Gregory:
ha ha
Matthews:
the great thing about Bill Clinton
is he
is totally in touch with white people
in a
way Barack Obama is not
Murphy:
Hillary Clinton is threatened
by
Elizabeth Warren
Parker:
she is warm and wonderful
Murphy:
just like a Bond villain
Brokaw:
I love these parlor games
but
this is ridiculous
Matthews:
Democrats don't like
a
coronation – they like a fight!
Gregory:
I'm looking forward to it!
Matthews:
ha!
Gregory:
and that's another episode
of Meet The Press
