Sunday, May 03, 2015

This Week with George Stephanopoulos – May 3, 2015


Guests:

Jim Avila

Pierre Thomas

TJ Holmes

Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD)

Dan Abrams

Ray Kelly – Fmr. NYC Police Commissioner

Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC)

Stephen A. Smith

Jeremy Schaap

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)





Stephanopoulos: OMG it's calm in

Baltimore but there were riots before



Stephanopoulos: there was a baseball

game with no fans – usually you

have to go a Mets game for that



Avila: it's mostly peaceful here

in Baltimore but at night it's a different world



Stephanopoulos: it's a hot time 
summer in the city



Avila: then a young prosecutor said

she would charge cops with murder



Stephanopoulos: oooh



Avila: protesters saying for

once marching actually worked



Avila: the police union says
there was a rush to judgment 
which is what they always say 
when they arrest someone



Stephanopoulos: of course



Avila: they want another prosecutor

but Mosby is all like 'no way dudes'



Stephanopoulos: welcome

Representative Cummings



Cummings: hi George



Stephanopoulos: how is Baltimore doing?



Cummings: we had a tragic death

and riots but its been mostly peaceful



Stephanopoulos: will there be more

riots if the cops are not convicted?



Cummings: this prosecutor

knows what she is doing



Stephanopoulos: how do we prevent

more riots which terrify white people



Cummings: we need offer

jobs and hope to young people



Stephanopoulos: what else?



Cummings: we need address

police brutality and abuse of power



Stephanopoulos: Baltimore never

recovered from the riots of 1968



Cummings: we're all going to have

to work together to fix Baltimore



Stephanopoulos: how do you do that?



Cummings: young people feel

trapped and hopeless



Stephanopoulos: okay thanks for coming



[ break ]



Stephanopoulos: Pierre Thomas

what's the news with police abuse?



Thomas: Ferguson. Eric Garner.

Cleveland South Carolina. Freddie Gray



Stephanopoulos: I hear you Pierre



Thomas: a combination of unemployment

and poverty and abuse by cops can

spark a firestorm in any city in America



Cop: we don't shoot that many people!



Cop: right - what about all

the times we don't kill people?



Cop: it's not all our fault –

poverty and tough on crime

policies come from the top



Cop: they don't see cops

as humans – it's so sad



[ break ]



Stephanopoulos: Dan Abrams 
should we really be charing 
cops with breaking the law?



Abrams: the prosecutor 
overreached a little bit



Stephanopoulos: what is 'murder'

I've never heard of that charge!



Abrams: it alleges he repeatedly

never took action to help a dying man



Stephanopoulos: charging someone

with 'manslaughter' is weird what is that?



Abrams: well someone broke his spine



Stephanopoulos: the cops will

never turn on each other will they



Kelly: maybe not but you never know



Stephanopoulos: what do you

think of charging cops with a crime?



Kelly: people think the case is very weak



Stephanopoulos: which people?



Kelly: the cops I've been talking to



Stephanopoulos: oh well never mind then



Kelly: cops are very good overall



Stephanopoulos: no doubt



Kelly: but we do need body cameras



Thomas: cops need to be

trained as to when to use excessive force



Stephanopoulos: is this Obama's responsibility?



Thomas: the issue is poverty and pain



Stephanopoulos: if you say so



Thomas: there were 900 murders

in Baltimore – no one can live like that!



Stephanopoulos: welcome Senator Scott



Scott: good morning George



Stephanopoulos: is it time for a

national response to police abuse?



Scott: body cameras can help

both cops and the general public



Stephanopoulos: what about poverty?



Scott: I was once that kid flunking

out of school and now I'm a U.S. Senator



Stephanopoulos: that's impressive



Scott: education is the key –

dropping out leads to unemployment

and hopelessness



Stephanopoulos: I can see that



Scott: also Cory Booker and I

are working apprenticeship programs



Stephanopoulos: what about criminal

justice reform and mass incarceration?



Scott: Cory Booker and Lindsey Graham

and Trey Gowdy and I are working on this



Stephanopoulos: there's an eclectic group



[ break ]



Stephanopoulos: omg Mayweather

won the biggest purse ever!



Audience: and he won a belt too!



Holmes: but there was controversy

because Pacquiao had a hurt shoulder



Audience: is that all



Holmes: Mayweather is the

highest paid serial abuser of women



Holmes: fans prefer mixed martial arts

clearly finding professional boxing

too tame and mild by comparison



Holmes: if Mayweather retires is boxing

finished or will people still enjoying men

inflict brain damage on each other?



Stephanopoulos: Stephen A Smith

you just talked to Floyd Mayweather



Smith: yes my good friend

Floyd Mayweather who is my best friend



Stephanopoulos: Mike Tyson

said it wasn't a good fight



Schaap: well he can bite me



Stephanopoulos: he just might



Stephanopoulos: Manny had

a bum shoulder



Schaap: Floyd is a masterful boxer

but not a crowd pleaser



Stephanopoulos: what happens to

the sport of boxing when Floyd retires?



Smith: Americans love to see

someone punched in the head

so hard they lose consciousness



Stephanopoulos: does boxing have a future?



Schaap: no – nobody cares



Stephanopoulos: no?



Schaap: no one wants to pay $100

to see guys dance away from each

other for an hour – they can see

that for free during the GOP primaries



[ break ]



Stephanopoulos: oh wow Bernie Sanders

is running for President and he's a socialist!



Stephanopoulos: welcome Bernie



Sanders: nice to be here George



Stephanopoulos: why should

people vote for you for President?



Sanders: I'm the only one willing to

start a revolution against the billionaires



Stephanopoulos: so you're claiming

Hillary isn't revolting enough



Sanders: Hillary Clinton is part of the establishment



Stephanopoulos: so what's the problem?



Sanders: 99% of all new income

goes to the richest 1%



Stephanopoulos: so not all of it



Sanders: the top tenth of 1% have

much of the wealth as the bottom 90%



Stephanopoulos: can America actually

elect a socialist President?



Sanders: yes because socialism is

guaranteed health care, free higher

education and child care and

government working for the people



Stephanopoulos: it's so scary -
it's almost as if you want America 
to look more like Scandinavia



Sanders: that right I do



Stephanopoulos: whoa really?



Sanders: sure – they have more equality

and a strong middle class and they

are better on the environment



Stephanopoulos: maybe but it's

freezing and they eat fermented fish



Sanders: well we don't have to import everything



Stephanopoulos: you're going to

replace the all White House furniture with IKEA



Sanders: why not?



Stephanopoulos: you hate America



Sanders: why does America

have so much childhood poverty

with so many billionaires?



Stephanopoulos: not enough tax cuts?



Stephanopoulos: are you a Democrat now?



Sanders: no but I have to file

as one to run as a Democrat



Stephanopoulos: will you support

the Democratic nominee?



Sanders: yes absolutely



Stephanopoulos: what's the difference

between you and Hillary Clinton?



Sanders: the rich have to pay their

fair share instead hiding from taxes

in the Cayman islands



Stephanopoulos: what else?



Sanders: we need bold leadership

against climate change!



Stephanopoulos: go on Bernie



Sanders: I've been fighting

against big free trade agreements



Stephanopoulos: you're critical

of the Clinton foundation



Sanders: the real question is  
can any person who is not a 
billionaire win an election – it's about 
the Koch brothers and Sheldon Adelson



Stephanopoulos: aha – you're

comparing Hillary Clinton to

Sheldon Adelson!



Sanders: no I'm not – I'm worried

about the power of billionaires in our democracy



Stephanopoulos: billionaires are people too



Sanders: we raised $1 million in one day



Stephanopoulos: who would be

your Secretary of Treasury?



Sanders: Robert Reich

he's a good lefty



Stephanopoulos: what about

Secretary of Defense?



Sanders: Bjorn Borg



Stephanopoulos: Attorney General?



Sanders: the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo



Stephanopoulos: who would 
run the Federal Reserve?



Sanders: ABBA



Stephanopoulos: they had

that song 'Money Money Money'



Sanders: exactly – they can't

be worse than Greenspan



Stephanopoulos: these are all good choices



Sanders: I opposed deregulation

of Wall Street and I was right!



Stephanopoulos: who is

the real Bernie Sanders?



Sanders: he's your cranky old

Jewish socialist grandfather

who grew up poor in Brooklyn



Stephanopoulos: are you worried

about weakening Hillary Clinton



Sanders: no ha ha



Stephanopoulos: can you really win?



Sanders: hey no one thought

a socialist could be re-elected

to the Senate a dozen times



Stephanopoulos: thanks for coming Bernie



Sanders: thank you George