Gov. Jon Kasich (R-OH)
Rep. Tom Davis (R-CA)
Nuala O'Connor – President of the
Center for Democracy & Technology
Todd: aww Beau Biden died
from brain cancer at age 46
Todd: he was three years old
when he was injured in a car
accident and his father was sworn in
Beau Biden: my brother and I
were what all my dad cared about
Biden: he was the finest man
any of us have ever known
Todd: John Kerry broke his leg
bicycling in France
Reporter: he had just met
with the Iran foreign minister
Todd: wow stunning news – well
respected lobbyist Dennis Hastert
arrested for laundering money
Williams: he's not charged with
his old horrifying crimes –
just new unseemly ones
Todd: what did he do
Williams: the feds claim he evaded
cash withdrawal reporting requirements
Todd: they didn't even arrest
his evil blackmailer
Williams: well Hastert doesn't
claim he was extorted
Todd: so what's the offense?
Williams: withdrawing cash
and lying to the FBI
Todd: is that a crime?
Williams: Martha Stewart
went to prison for less than that
Todd: I thought that
some home fashion crime
Williams: don't lie to the FBI Chuck!
[ break ]
Todd: only shit as Alanis Morrisette
would say isn't it ironic Hastert pushed
through money-laundering laws and
only Speaker because of sex scandals!
Davis: yeah but he was a pillar of integrity
Todd: explain how shocked you are
Davis: you knock me over with a feather
[ Todd pokes with a feather ]
Todd: just checking
Davis: quit it
Todd: this is very sad for all of us
Voter: I'm not surprised at all
– all members of Congress
are perverts and criminals
Todd: I defend Congress to voters
and then this happens and I look like a jackasses
Audience: that ship already sailed Todd
Davis: this isn't going to help
the reputation of Congress
Todd: everyone in Congress is a crook
– is there something in the water?
Davis: Congress have always
been criminals – I blame twitter
for pointing it out
Todd: that sounds about right
Davis: in the good old days people
just didn't talk about little infractions
like child molesting
Todd: I can't defend Washington
anymore! It's outrageous!
Matthews: people can forgive an
extra-marital affair if at politicians least
they got something done but Congress
is sleazy and corrupt and useless too
Matthews: but there are some
good members of Congress too
Todd: but it sure doesn't look that way
Fagen: it's a vicious cycle – being in
Congress is such a disgusting job
only total jerks are willing to do it
Todd: here's a question – how does
Dennis Hastert end up with $12 million?
Raju: his wealth from lobbying
exposes the unseemly side of former
members of Congress openly selling
access to the government for money
Walter: we should remember the real victims here
Matthews: members of Congress who lead good lives!
Todd: yes they are victims too
Walter: [ eyeroll ]
[ break ]
Todd: should be Bernie Sanders
be written off or could he have a
real impact on who the next President
will be – let's look at history
Todd: in 1968 Gene McCarthy and
his pack of hippies engineered a
stunning repudiation of LBJ and Vietnam
Todd: it pushed Johnson out
and drew Bobby Kennedy in
Todd: RFK was killed and we got
Nixon and more war and Watergate
Todd: then upstart Gary Hart beat
Mondale in New Hampshire which
made Mondale look foolish and we
got Reagan and George H.W. Bush
Todd: then in 2012 Rick Santorum
beat Romney in Iowa – and Romney
never recovered and got Obama maybe Hillary
Audience: so challengers
equal success for the other side?
Todd: welcome Bernie Sanders
Sanders: good morning Charles!
Todd: thanks –- I know you have to
rush back to D.C. for some sort of
re-authorization of the Patriot Act which
I gather is about deflated footballs or something
Sanders: I voted against the original Patriot Act!
Todd: you one of the only ones who did
Sanders: we have to protect the Constitution!
Todd: that onld thing?
Sanders: we're losing our privacy rights!
Todd: are you comfortable with
allowing the phone company to
keep our phone records?
Sanders: they already have it Chuck
Todd: no one tells me anything
Sanders: well where did you
think the NSA got them from?
Todd: who was more progressive – Bill Clinton or Obama
Sanders: I like Obama but we
have 45 million living in poverty
Todd: aha so Clinton
Sanders: I like Obama and
history will judge him well
Todd: so you like Obama hate Bill Clinton?
Sanders: no he was pretty good President too
Todd: So you like Clinton and hate Obama?
Sanders: Clinton was not good on
NAFTA and de-regulated Wall Street
which led the 2008 Great Recession
Todd: well who do you dislike then?
Sanders right now – you
Todd: it seems like Hillary is moving
toward your positions on a lot of issues
Sanders: I know Clinton and I
respect her and I like her and you
keep trying to make me bash her
Todd: so do it
Sanders: I want this election to be
about the issues and the things
I have been warning about for 30 years
Todd: listen hippie bash Hillary
or get off my show
Sanders: I've been proven right
about everything for decades
Todd: you wrote some weird
essay on rape in 1972
Sanders: it's a 43 year-old attempt
to write '50 Shades of Grey'
Todd: well it sucks
Sanders: we need more debates
– even in July! With Republicans!
Todd: why not right here on my show?
Sanders: why not!
Todd: I love it!
[ break ]
Todd: omg Scott Walker is leading
in all the polls and poor Lindsay
Graham is stuck at 1%
Todd: welcome Rick Santorum
Santorum: hello Charles
Todd: people know you and they don't like you
Santorum: true but I have many
volunteers many of whom do not
have sexual repression issues
Todd: if the phone companies keep
our phone records will we all be killed?
Santorum: I love the Patriot Act
which violated no one's privacy ever
Todd: Mike Huckabee says if the
Supreme Court rule for the gays the
states for should ignore their godless ways
Santorum: I like the Supreme Court
but they're not gods – they're just
nine old out of touch idiots
Todd: so would you accept
a pro-gay ruling or fight it
Santorum: I'd fight it – we're not bound
by what nine perverts say about gays
Todd: but you wouldn't ignore the
ruling and declare judicial review invalid
over your boiling hatred of homosexuals
Santorum: no I wouldn't but I would
continue to fight the gays with every
boner in my body
Todd: you're working yourself into a lather
Santorum: I just get so angry about
those muscular men and their bodies
glistening with sweat touching and
sorry what were we talking about
Todd: you want to raise the minimum
wage – but most Republicans don't
Santorum: Barack Obama's liberal
policies turned around the Republican
recession but what about the poor people!
Todd: they're very nice
Santorum: Obama wants to bring in
immigrants to repress wages and
buy more votes
Todd: wow you think Democrats
just favor more immigration to
get more voters?
Santorum: liberals used to anti-immigrant
and now they're not it's so sad
Todd: but you still are
Santorum: darn right!
Todd: thanks for coming
[ break ]
Todd: welcome Jon Kasich
Kasich: I just want to say
Joe Biden is a real stand-up guy
– god bless you Joe
Todd: that's classy of you Jon
Todd: are you running for President?
Kasich: yes but only because
frankly I'm better than everyone else
Todd: that checks out
Kasich: I don't want to
run but America needs me
Todd: I put you in the “Jeb Bush Bracket”
but you hate that guy
Kasich: I like Jeb
Todd: no you don't
Kasich: I balanced the budget and reformed the military
Todd: most impressive
Kasich: I was in business for 10 years and now I'm a Governor
Todd: not too shabby
Kasich: Washington, business, Governor
– I've got the best resume since
John Quincy Adams!
Todd: is the death penalty dead?
Kasich: let's not forget the victims –
grieving families need to have
someone killed to feel better
Todd: they do?
Kasich: yes without some more
killing you can't get closure
Todd: you're a deeply religious Catholic
which disapproves the death penalty
Kasich: I have a job to do in Ohio which
is to oversee executions as soon we get
our hands on the right lethal drugs
Todd: thanks for coming
[ break ]
Fagen: Bernie Sanders is going
to make this race very difficult
for Clinton and she's losing!
Todd: Santorum ruined Romney
– will Sanders do they same to do Clinton?
Matthews: screw that – Hillary should
be authentic and be herself which is a centrist Democrat
Todd: Kasich is aiming for New Hampshire
Walter: he's got a good resume but
can he win over crazy primary voters?
Todd: good question
Walter: Scott Walker is from the midwest
too and conservatives really like him
Fagen: Walker is polling well
but he's kind of a doofus
Raju: candidates need a
billionaires to adopt them
Todd: omg the NSA can access
your telephone records which your
local police department can also
do but never mind
Todd: welcome Nuala O'Connor
from the Center for Technology and Security
O'Connor: actually it's the Center
for Democracy and Technology
Todd: whatever Nora
O'Connor: the NSA has been collecting
and storing the records of every phone
call in America which is too much
Todd: so should the phone companies
collect it all and then hand it over on an as-needed basis?
O'Connor: the government can already
use subpoenas and warrants –
we don't need wholesale mass surveillance
Todd: but what if the phone companies say 'no'?
O'Connor: we need limited
legitimate targeted searches
Todd: thanks for coming Nala
[ break ]
Todd: the death penalty
is no longer popular
Todd: lawmakers are actually
ahead of the public on this issue
Walter: because it's
about saving money
Raju: but there are still aggressive
Fagen: when you have so many
people released from death row it
makes you stop and think hey
maybe this is a bad idea
Todd: in the 1990s you had to
be for the death penalty –
that's how Bill Clinton and
George Pataki both got elected
Matthews: I have no opinion but
Jon Kasich puts a tingle up my leg
Todd: what the hell is wrong
with Mitch McConnell?
Raju: he's against the USA Freedom Act
even though it's the only thing that can pass
Fagen: Republicans love invasive searches
Matthews: kids today don't pay taxes
but they live on their smart phones
Todd: today is Bob Schieffer's last day
and he's the kind of great anchor we
all aspire to be but never seem to
Schieffer: purple socks!
Todd: and that's another
episode of Meet The Press