Guests:
Mayor
Stephanie Rawlings-Blake
(D-Baltimore)
Martin
O'Malley – Fmr. Gov. of MD (D)
Speaker
John Boehner (R-OH)
Tom
Brokaw
April
Ryan
Kim
Strassel
Wes
Moore
D.
Watkins
Todd:
oh my there is calm is Baltimore
after a week of unrest
Todd:
but it's deeply divided city
Todd:
96% of people believe
this will be a summer of riots
Todd:
six cops were charged with
crimes
after snapping the spine
of a
guy they illegally arrested
Todd:
all the cops have been released on bail
Police
Union: they did nothing wrong!
Todd:
will you ever lift the curfew
in
this the most free country in the world?
Rawlings-Blake:
maybe we'll see
Todd:
what about liberty?
Rawlings-Blake:
you don't just
let
go of a curfew – it's very useful
for
preventing protesting
Todd:
so you're keeping it for now?
Rawlings-Blake:
well things
are
getting better so why end it now?
Todd:
do you regret using
the
phrase 'space to destroy'?
Blake:
that was taken out of context
Todd:
oh I see
Rawlings-Blake:
I would
never condone rioting
Todd:
well good for you
Rawlings-Blake:
thanks Chuck
Todd:
do you regret using that phrase?
Rawlings-Blake:
certainly I
used the wrong phrase
Todd:
all right then
Rawlings-Blake:
I will prosecute looters!
Todd:
how will you do that?
Rawlings-Blake:
we will go troll through
videotapes
to find and arrest looters
Todd:
wow
Rawlings-Blake:
we will even use
facial
recognition technology
and
flying robot drones if we have to!
Todd:
jesus we get it Mayor
Blake:
we will bring justice
to victims of looters!
Todd:
okay okay
Rawlings-Blake:
I don't condone violence!
Todd:
righty-o
Todd:
one protester said if the
CVS
hadn't been burned there
wouldn't
have been criminal
charges
brought against cops
Rawlings-Blake:
that's not true
Todd:
no?
Rawlings-Blake:
no burning
a
CVS is senseless –
people
need those to get medicine
and
diapers and late night munchies
Todd:
even your pastor
thinks
you're a crappy Mayor
Rawlings-Blake:
he's entitled to his opinion
Todd:
well his opinion is that you suck
Rawlings-Blake:
I know how to lead
our
city through tough times
Todd:
all evidence to the contrary
Rawlings-Blake:
that's mean Charles
Todd:
how should you be judged?
Rawlings-Blake:
how should I know?
Todd:
gee I don't know
Rawlings-Blake:
we need to fix our problems
Todd:
yeah no shit – how will you do that?
Rawlings-Blake:
I asked the
Department of
Justice to come
in and fix our police department
Todd:
you're really hands-on aren't you?
Rawlings-Blake:
I do try Ted
Todd:
thanks for coming Mayor
Rawlings-Blake:
you too Ed
[
break ]
Todd:
we decided to talk to
real
citizens of Baltimore
about
what they want
Citizen:
we need to focus on education
Citizen:
economic development!
Citizen:
fix the police
Citizen:
no one cares about us
[
break ]
Todd:
welcome Marty
O'Malley:
nice to be here Chucky
Todd:
what's wrong with Baltimore?
O'Malley:
our modern economy
leaves
whole parts of America left behind
Todd:
true enough
O'Malley:
extreme poverty
leads
to extreme violence
Todd:
but you once said crime
causes
poverty which is politically incorrect
O'Malley:
well it's true
Todd:
looking back what are
all
the things your did wrong as Mayor?
O'Malley:
I was a very good Mayor Todd
Todd:
that settles that
O'Malley:
I was elected with 90% of the vote
Todd:
those are North Korea numbers
O'Malley:
I rock Todd
Todd:
Republicans and Democrats
now
agree we arrest too many
non-violent
criminals
O'Malley:
Believe me I know all about this
– I
started out as a prosecutor of
low-level
drug offenders
Todd:
good for you
O'Malley:
but we reduced crime
and incarceration at the same time
Todd:
impressive
O'Malley:
I even decriminalized drugs
– doesn't
that give me liberal street cred?!?
Todd:
Speaker Boehner says
all
the problems are liberals' fault
O'Malley:
that's fucking stupid
Todd:
but we spend $100 million
to
fix Baltimore and it's still broken
proving
liberals are wrong
O'Malley:
what a fucking lie –
national
politicians abandoned Baltimore!
Todd:
whoa call down Martin
O'Malley:
fuck Speaker Boehner –
that's
a spit in the bucket
Todd:
can you still run for President
when
it's clear all Baltimore problems
are
your fault?
O'Malley:
damn fucking right
I can – this
should be a wake-up
call for all America!
Todd:
will this be central to your campaign?
O'Malley:
absolutely it will
Todd:
will you announce in Baltimore?
O'Malley:
not anywhere else!
[
break ]
Todd:
1965 Pat Moynihan warned
us
black people were in trouble
Todd:
inequality is worse
than
it was in the 1960s
Todd:
unemployment for African-Americans
was
twice the national average and
it
still is fifty years later
Todd:
poverty is down but still
worse
for blacks than whites
Todd:
Tom Brokaw talk about blacks to me
Brokaw:
Moynihan was attacked
from
the left for criticizing inner city
blacks but he was right
Todd:
so true Tom
Brokaw:
Black leaders should
have
stood up and said Pat Moynihan is right
Todd:
preach it Tom
Brokaw:
we need a Marshall Plan for ghettos!
Ryan:
okay fine white dudes but
we
need to do more than just point fingers
Todd:
maybe
Ryan:
black people just want
opportunity
to succeed
Todd:
Moynihan said the American
Negro
had a pathology – gosh he was smart
Moore:
how nice for him Chuck
Todd:
you differ Wes?
Moore:
it's not just about
single
parents – it's about relatives
and
mentors and neighbors and
pastors
so kids know people care about them
Todd:
what should rich people
do
about black pathology?
Strassel:
we tried liberals' central
planning
and we still have high crime
Todd:
well put
Strassel:
we have to break
the teachers union!
Todd:
if we don't crush the
unions CVS
may never rebuild!
Watkins:
Baltimore cops are out of control
Watkins:
cops don't speak to
black
people as people but as animals
Watkins:
I've never had a good
encounter
with a Baltimore cop – ever
Watkins:
some cops are from
the
suburbs and never meet a
black
person until they get a license to kill them
Watkins:
peaceful protests don't
work
but violence doesn't either
Todd:
Wes it sounds like D. Watkins
is
rationalizing riots
Moore:
his frustration is real
– for
black people across America
Todd:
I suppose so
Moore:
cops need reforms
just
to keep them safe
Todd:
interesting point
Moore:
the Army needs intelligence
and
so do cops which means garnering
trust
from locals in Afghanistan and
Iraq
and Baltimore
Strassel:
high crime is vicious circle
Todd:
Obama didn't go to Ferguson
– is this all his fault?
Ryan:
Obama says his presence
would
be a distraction
Todd:
oh I disagree
Ryan:
but he should go to Baltimore
– this
is part of his legacy
Todd:
right
Ryan:
but Obama is involved with
My
Brother's Keeper and the media ignores it
Todd:
talk Obama to me Brokaw
Brokaw:
Obama is too involved
in
the middle east and not the inner city
Todd:
exactly!
Brokaw:
we need a blue ribbon
commission with Wes Moore and
someone from the University of Texas
Todd:
and John Boehner!
Brokaw:
I'd like to say “inner city”
five more times
Todd:
please do Tom
Brokaw:
inner city!
[
break ]
Todd:
lets' look at our latest poll –
Democrats
think the most important
things
are jobs and climate change
GOP
voters think the most important
things
are terrorism and the debt
Todd:
I got to talk to John Boehner!
Todd:
welcome Speaker
Boehner:
nice to see you Chuck
Todd:
how do we save Baltimore?
Boehner:
tax cuts for the rich!
Todd:
anything else?
Boehner:
privatize education!
Todd:
problem solved
Boehner:
50 years of liberals
policies
have failed in Baltimore
Todd:
what else?
Boehner:
education!
Todd:
that will take money
Boehner:
we need to spend less money!
Todd:
the police keep
killing
unarmed black people
Boehner:
yeah you have to scratch your head
Todd:
that's one response
Boehner:
if the cops are criminal
it's
outrageous and unacceptable
Todd:
what about body
cameras
for cops?
Boehner:
body cameras
are
okay I guess
Todd: do you have plan if the
Supreme
Court overturns Obamacare?
Boehner:
no we don't
Todd:
you said Obamacare
would
be a disaster and it's succeeding
Boehner:
Obamacare caused unemployment
Todd:
since Obamacare was
enacted
we've added jobs
Boehner:
no we didn't
Todd:
yes we did - 3 million actually
Boehner:
giving people Medicaid
is
like giving them nothing because it sucks
Todd:
so we should get rid of Medicaid?
Boehner:
it's an insult
Todd:
what about free trade?
Boehner:
Hillary's Clinton loves
trade
with Asians – she just wont admit it
Todd:
do you need Hillary's help?
Boehner:
Democrat leaders
oppose
Obama and I'm helping him!
Todd:
you think Clinton should get invovled
Boehner:
darn right
Todd:
are there too many
lobbyists
in Washington?
Boehner:
not at all –
we
need more lobbyists!
Todd:
really?
Boehner:
the worst are those
environmentalists
getting rich by
saving
rainforests and studying pack ice
Todd:
the whole house is gerrymandered
Boehner:
stealing elections is perfectly fair
Todd:
do you really believe that?
Boehner:
sure why not?
Todd:
is there too much money in politics?
Boehner:
no because we
spend
more on antacids
Todd:
are you serious?
Boehner:
everyone is Congress
are
wonderful honest decent people
Todd:
you support Jeb Bush
but
you won't endorse him!
Boehner:
no because
Jon
Kasich owes me money
Todd:
What about Hillary?
Boehner:
she scares me
Todd:
Scott Walker
Boehner:
who?
Todd:
Ted Cruz?
Boehner:
ha ha don't
make
me say what I think Todd
[ break ]
Todd: who does best - Carly Fiorina or Ben Carson or Mike Huckabee
Strassel:
all these crazy-ass
GOP candidates were
formed in
reaction in their sheer hatred of Obama
Brokaw:
stick a fork in Christie
because
he is in a toaster
Todd: well put
Brokaw:
Christie was a career prosecutor
Todd:
no he never was –he
just
bundled a fortune for Bush in 2000
Brokaw:
I wish you all could have
been
with me when I spent the
weekend
at Monticello and it was
a
wonderful honest discussion of
slavery
with no finger-pointing
Todd:
is O'Malley going to become
more
relevant or less relevant?
Moore:
yes but also no
Todd:
the entire Democratic party
is
backing away from being 'tough on crime'
Strassel:
Republicans love Elizabeth Warren!
Todd:
Ed Millband actually unveiled
a
platform etched in limestone –
and
I thought our politicians were nuts
Brokaw:
watch out for him –
he
took down his own brother!
Todd:
if Cameron loses is
that
bad for the Republican party?
Strassel:
no because he's a socialist
Todd:
Wes you know all
about
European elections
Moore:
well I know they
spend
less money than we do
Todd:
but our two-year long
elections
is how NBC makes millions
Brokaw:
ha so true
Todd:
and that's another
episode
of Meet The Press
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