Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (D-Baltimore)
Martin O'Malley – Fmr. Gov. of MD (D)
Speaker John Boehner (R-OH)
Todd: oh my there is calm is Baltimore
after a week of unrest
Todd: but it's deeply divided city
Todd: 96% of people believe
this will be a summer of riots
Todd: six cops were charged with
crimes after snapping the spine
of a guy they illegally arrested
Todd: all the cops have been released on bail
Police Union: they did nothing wrong!
Todd: will you ever lift the curfew
in this the most free country in the world?
Rawlings-Blake: maybe we'll see
Todd: what about liberty?
Rawlings-Blake: you don't just
let go of a curfew – it's very useful
for preventing protesting
Todd: so you're keeping it for now?
Rawlings-Blake: well things
are getting better so why end it now?
Todd: do you regret using
the phrase 'space to destroy'?
Blake: that was taken out of context
Todd: oh I see
Rawlings-Blake: I would
never condone rioting
Todd: well good for you
Rawlings-Blake: thanks Chuck
Todd: do you regret using that phrase?
Rawlings-Blake: certainly I
used the wrong phrase
Todd: all right then
Rawlings-Blake: I will prosecute looters!
Todd: how will you do that?
Rawlings-Blake: we will go troll through
videotapes to find and arrest looters
Rawlings-Blake: we will even use
facial recognition technology
and flying robot drones if we have to!
Todd: jesus we get it Mayor
Blake: we will bring justice
to victims of looters!
Todd: okay okay
Rawlings-Blake: I don't condone violence!
Todd: one protester said if the
CVS hadn't been burned there
wouldn't have been criminal
charges brought against cops
Rawlings-Blake: that's not true
Rawlings-Blake: no burning
a CVS is senseless –
people need those to get medicine
and diapers and late night munchies
Todd: even your pastor
thinks you're a crappy Mayor
Rawlings-Blake: he's entitled to his opinion
Todd: well his opinion is that you suck
Rawlings-Blake: I know how to lead
our city through tough times
Todd: all evidence to the contrary
Rawlings-Blake: that's mean Charles
Todd: how should you be judged?
Rawlings-Blake: how should I know?
Todd: gee I don't know
Rawlings-Blake: we need to fix our problems
Todd: yeah no shit – how will you do that?
Rawlings-Blake: I asked the
Department of Justice to come
in and fix our police department
Todd: you're really hands-on aren't you?
Rawlings-Blake: I do try Ted
Todd: thanks for coming Mayor
Rawlings-Blake: you too Ed
[ break ]
Todd: we decided to talk to
real citizens of Baltimore
about what they want
Citizen: we need to focus on education
Citizen: economic development!
Citizen: fix the police
Citizen: no one cares about us
[ break ]
Todd: welcome Marty
O'Malley: nice to be here Chucky
Todd: what's wrong with Baltimore?
O'Malley: our modern economy
leaves whole parts of America left behind
Todd: true enough
O'Malley: extreme poverty
leads to extreme violence
Todd: but you once said crime
causes poverty which is politically incorrect
O'Malley: well it's true
Todd: looking back what are
all the things your did wrong as Mayor?
O'Malley: I was a very good Mayor Todd
Todd: that settles that
O'Malley: I was elected with 90% of the vote
Todd: those are North Korea numbers
O'Malley: I rock Todd
Todd: Republicans and Democrats
now agree we arrest too many
O'Malley: Believe me I know all about this
– I started out as a prosecutor of
low-level drug offenders
Todd: good for you
O'Malley: but we reduced crime
and incarceration at the same time
O'Malley: I even decriminalized drugs
– doesn't that give me liberal street cred?!?
Todd: Speaker Boehner says
all the problems are liberals' fault
O'Malley: that's fucking stupid
Todd: but we spend $100 million
to fix Baltimore and it's still broken
proving liberals are wrong
O'Malley: what a fucking lie –
national politicians abandoned Baltimore!
Todd: whoa call down Martin
O'Malley: fuck Speaker Boehner –
that's a spit in the bucket
Todd: can you still run for President
when it's clear all Baltimore problems
are your fault?
O'Malley: damn fucking right
I can – this should be a wake-up
call for all America!
Todd: will this be central to your campaign?
O'Malley: absolutely it will
Todd: will you announce in Baltimore?
O'Malley: not anywhere else!
[ break ]
Todd: 1965 Pat Moynihan warned
us black people were in trouble
Todd: inequality is worse
than it was in the 1960s
Todd: unemployment for African-Americans
was twice the national average and
it still is fifty years later
Todd: poverty is down but still
worse for blacks than whites
Todd: Tom Brokaw talk about blacks to me
Brokaw: Moynihan was attacked
from the left for criticizing inner city
blacks but he was right
Todd: so true Tom
Brokaw: Black leaders should
have stood up and said Pat Moynihan is right
Todd: preach it Tom
Brokaw: we need a Marshall Plan for ghettos!
Ryan: okay fine white dudes but
we need to do more than just point fingers
Ryan: black people just want
opportunity to succeed
Todd: Moynihan said the American
Negro had a pathology – gosh he was smart
Moore: how nice for him Chuck
Todd: you differ Wes?
Moore: it's not just about
single parents – it's about relatives
and mentors and neighbors and
pastors so kids know people care about them
Todd: what should rich people
do about black pathology?
Strassel: we tried liberals' central
planning and we still have high crime
Todd: well put
Strassel: we have to break
the teachers union!
Todd: if we don't crush the
unions CVS may never rebuild!
Watkins: Baltimore cops are out of control
Watkins: cops don't speak to
black people as people but as animals
Watkins: I've never had a good
encounter with a Baltimore cop – ever
Watkins: some cops are from
the suburbs and never meet a
black person until they get a license to kill them
Watkins: peaceful protests don't
work but violence doesn't either
Todd: Wes it sounds like D. Watkins
is rationalizing riots
Moore: his frustration is real
– for black people across America
Todd: I suppose so
Moore: cops need reforms
just to keep them safe
Todd: interesting point
Moore: the Army needs intelligence
and so do cops which means garnering
trust from locals in Afghanistan and
Iraq and Baltimore
Strassel: high crime is vicious circle
Todd: Obama didn't go to Ferguson
– is this all his fault?
Ryan: Obama says his presence
would be a distraction
Todd: oh I disagree
Ryan: but he should go to Baltimore
– this is part of his legacy
Ryan: but Obama is involved with
My Brother's Keeper and the media ignores it
Todd: talk Obama to me Brokaw
Brokaw: Obama is too involved
in the middle east and not the inner city
Brokaw: we need a blue ribbon
commission with Wes Moore and
someone from the University of Texas
Todd: and John Boehner!
Brokaw: I'd like to say “inner city”
five more times
Todd: please do Tom
Brokaw: inner city!
[ break ]
Todd: lets' look at our latest poll –
Democrats think the most important
things are jobs and climate change
GOP voters think the most important
things are terrorism and the debt
Todd: I got to talk to John Boehner!
Todd: welcome Speaker
Boehner: nice to see you Chuck
Todd: how do we save Baltimore?
Boehner: tax cuts for the rich!
Todd: anything else?
Boehner: privatize education!
Todd: problem solved
Boehner: 50 years of liberals
policies have failed in Baltimore
Todd: what else?
Todd: that will take money
Boehner: we need to spend less money!
Todd: the police keep
killing unarmed black people
Boehner: yeah you have to scratch your head
Todd: that's one response
Boehner: if the cops are criminal
it's outrageous and unacceptable
Todd: what about body
cameras for cops?
Boehner: body cameras
are okay I guess
Todd: do you have plan if the
Supreme Court overturns Obamacare?
Boehner: no we don't
Todd: you said Obamacare
would be a disaster and it's succeeding
Boehner: Obamacare caused unemployment
Todd: since Obamacare was
enacted we've added jobs
Boehner: no we didn't
Todd: yes we did - 3 million actually
Boehner: giving people Medicaid
is like giving them nothing because it sucks
Todd: so we should get rid of Medicaid?
Boehner: it's an insult
Todd: what about free trade?
Boehner: Hillary's Clinton loves
trade with Asians – she just wont admit it
Todd: do you need Hillary's help?
Boehner: Democrat leaders
oppose Obama and I'm helping him!
Todd: you think Clinton should get invovled
Boehner: darn right
Todd: are there too many
lobbyists in Washington?
Boehner: not at all –
we need more lobbyists!
Boehner: the worst are those
environmentalists getting rich by
saving rainforests and studying pack ice
Todd: the whole house is gerrymandered
Boehner: stealing elections is perfectly fair
Todd: do you really believe that?
Boehner: sure why not?
Todd: is there too much money in politics?
Boehner: no because we
spend more on antacids
Todd: are you serious?
Boehner: everyone is Congress
are wonderful honest decent people
Todd: you support Jeb Bush
but you won't endorse him!
Boehner: no because
Jon Kasich owes me money
Todd: What about Hillary?
Boehner: she scares me
Todd: Scott Walker
Todd: Ted Cruz?
Boehner: ha ha don't
make me say what I think Todd
[ break ]
Todd: who does best - Carly Fiorina or Ben Carson or Mike Huckabee
Strassel: all these crazy-ass
GOP candidates were formed in
reaction in their sheer hatred of Obama
Brokaw: stick a fork in Christie
because he is in a toaster
Todd: well put
Brokaw: Christie was a career prosecutor
Todd: no he never was –he just
bundled a fortune for Bush in 2000
Brokaw: I wish you all could have
been with me when I spent the
weekend at Monticello and it was
a wonderful honest discussion of
slavery with no finger-pointing
Todd: is O'Malley going to become
more relevant or less relevant?
Moore: yes but also no
Todd: the entire Democratic party
is backing away from being 'tough on crime'
Strassel: Republicans love Elizabeth Warren!
Todd: Ed Millband actually unveiled
a platform etched in limestone –
and I thought our politicians were nuts
Brokaw: watch out for him –
he took down his own brother!
Todd: if Cameron loses is
that bad for the Republican party?
Strassel: no because he's a socialist
Todd: Wes you know all
about European elections
Moore: well I know they
spend less money than we do
Todd: but our two-year long
elections is how NBC makes millions
Brokaw: ha so true
Todd: and that's another
episode of Meet The Press