Charles Ramsey – Philadelphia Chief of Police
Dr. Ben Carson
Chris Matthews - MSNBC
Helene Cooper - NYT
Kathleen Parker – Washington Post
Gerald Seib – WSJ
Todd: I'm Chuck Todd and
welcome to Meet the Press
Todd: this is not your average sleepy Sunday!
Todd: if you love politics or are a
junkie this is the show for you
Todd: holy shit Joe Biden might run for President!
Todd: and great news for Donald
Trump - he's in first place with 19 percent
Paul: Christie, Perry, Cruz, Huckabee,
and Kasich are all the single digits
Todd: not everyone gets into the debate
Todd: Trump will be in the center
flanked by his backup singers
Scott Walker and Jeb Bush
Todd: Chris Christie ekes out the
last place but Rick Perry is out
because the debate doesn't go to 11
Todd: Trump is downplaying expectations
Trump: I'm not a master debater
Todd: Kasich says the debate is
like a getting into a NASCAR
race with a driver who's drunk
Walker: I'm gonna ignore Trump
Todd: you can't ignore Trump!
Todd: candidates will only have
60 seconds to answer which plays
to the strengths of a man whose
entire campaign is offensive soundbites
Christie: I will punch Donald Trump!
[ break ]
Todd: Donald Trump has deigned
to talk to us on the phone
Todd: welcome Mr Trump
Trump: make it quick Eddie – I'm busy
Todd: why are you so popular?
Trump: I have a wonderful life
and am very rich and very classy
Trump: the hispanic types in particular
love me because I am big tipper
Todd: you also have the
highest unfavorable rating
Trump: I am very popular in Iowa and
New Hampshire and Nevada and everywhere
Todd: you downplayed your
expectations which you usually never do
Trump: well I'm not a master debater
Todd: I'm not either I swear
Trump: I want to be real and
fabulous and I just want to be me
Todd: you do you
Trump: I have to be me
Todd: who is you?
Trump: an ignorant buffoonish asshole
Todd: but authentic
Trump: I don't have pollsters
or donors or ideas
Todd: you sure are different
Trump: I think I know the
subjects but I don't know
Todd: how would you advise
people to debate you?
Trump: I'm a nice guy!
Todd: of course you are
Trump: people say that all the time!
Todd: so you won't attack first?
Trump: no I'd rather discuss the issues
but I read that my opponents have pollsters
who are feeding them lines to attack me
Trump: in which case I will
have to point out they have
poultry manure in their heads
Todd: when are we going to see
a single specific proposal from you?
Trump: I specific plans which
will set the country back
Todd: good to know
Trump: we have to take back
jobs from Japan and Vietnam
Todd: all right
Trump: real unemployment is 21%
and it's very unfair that the media
never reports that Obama started
the recession in 2007
Todd: I see
Trump: we need more jobs
and we also need good-paying jobs
Todd: you have so many good ideas
Trump: we need to restore
our manufacturing base
Todd: what's your opinion on Biden or Clinton?
Trump: Hillary is the worst
Secretary of State in U.S. history
Todd: not Calhoun?
Trump: what she did is worse
than General Petraeus so she belongs in jail
Todd: of course
Trump: she would be easy
for me to beat especially if she's in prison
Todd: what about white cops
shooting unarmed black people
– is that a crisis in America?
Trump: we need to give power
back to the police because
crime is rampant
Todd: actually it isn't
Trump: cities need strong police!
Todd: what more powers to
police need that they don't have
– to kill on sight?
Trump: police jobs' are being
taken away from them!
Todd: oh okay
Trump: there is turmoil in our country!
Todd: can you understand why
black people don't trust police?
Trump: maybe a little but we have
to give power back to the police!
Todd: that's your answer?
Trump: and we must have law and order!
Todd: somewhere dogs are howling
Trump: we must give strength and
power and control back to the police
Trump: we have a tremendous crime
wave and killing wave across America!
Trump: there's always going to
be bad apples but we must give
police power to kill anyone anywhere
or we'll have total chaos!
[ break ]
Todd: welcome Reince Priebus
Todd: you want Trump to pledge
not to run as a third-party candidate
Priebus: it only makes sense if
you're running for the Republican nomination
Todd: is Donald Trump hurting
the image of the Republican party?
Priebus: Trump has nothing to
do with the Republican party
Todd: you wish
Priebus: we'll have nominee by March or April
Todd: that would be a quick nomination
Priebus: I'm hopeful
Todd: so best case scenario
you're stuck with Trump for the
next eight months
Priebus: oh god [start sobbing ]
Todd: you tried to take control
over the debate process and it's total chaos
Priebus: this happens all the time
– Jon Huntsman didn't make a debate
Priebus: the RNC got a say in
who the moderators are – we win!
Priebus: the media are private
entities – what can we do?
[ break ]
Todd: Trump is trying to be a nice guy
Todd: it's like he's setting us up and trump us by being reasonable
Parker: right – he's playing
with media expectations
Jeb: Trump has tapped into the anger that we don't enforce laws in America
Todd: Trump is toning it down and now
Jeb is toning down the anti-Trump rhetoric
Cooper: it's so weird – Jeb wants Trump
to be crazy so he can look reasonable
Parker: but if Trump comes out looking moderate he's going to make Jeb fade into the background like beige wallpaper
Todd: conservatives think Jeb is a wimp
Seib: can anyone take on Trump without alienating his supporters?
Todd: who are his supporters?
Seib: authoritarian frustrated angry white men
Matthews: it's not just angry white men
– it's people like me who feel the elites
have betrayed the little guy
Parker: everyone will attack Trump and not Jeb Bush
Todd: we shall see
Todd: OMG Joe Biden is thinking of running for President!
Todd: Hillary's numbers are dropping and Biden is more popular than ever!
Todd: is there room for the Vice
President to run?
Wasserman-Schultz: well sure but
give him some space – his son just died
Todd: he's a potential candidate!
Wasserman-Schultz: of course
Todd: what do you make us Bernie Sanders?
Wasserman-Schultz: all Democrats speak to issues popular with the American people
Wasserman-Schultz: Republicans think Mexicans are rapists and would use
Americans soldiers to shoot women
trying to get an abortion
Todd: what is the difference between a Democrat and a socialist?
Wasserman-Schultz: Democrat want to help the middle class and the GOP is going to nominate a crazed billionaire
Wasserman-Schultz: they hate gays and
abortion and immigrants and poor people
Todd: when are the Democratic debates?
Todd: what about August?
ever happens in August!
[ break ]
Todd: why didn't she answer my
question on what socialism is?
Matthews: they don't want to alienate
Bernie Sanders' crazy socialist supporters
Matthews: it's harder to explain
progressivism and than being conservative
where you just hate everything
and if you don't want to invade
other countries you're Hitler
Todd: is Biden going to run?
Cooper: it's one thing to talk
to your family about running
and it's another to actually run
Todd: are Democrats getting
nervous about Hillary?
Seib: some family members want
him to run but others don't want
his career to end on a loss
Todd: is Hillary planting these
stories to smoke Biden out?
Parker: oooh that would be so sneaky
Todd: I love it!
Parker: people like Joe Biden precisely
because he's not running
Matthews: don't underestimate
Joe Biden – he's not just a cuddly grandpa
Todd: he's feels ready to be President
[ break ]
Todd: welcome Chief Ramsey
Todd: yet again a body cam
shows a white a cop killing
an unarmed black man
Todd: suddenly everyone agrees
cops should wear body cameras
Ramsey: I agree but it's pretty expensive
Todd: have we been recruiting unstable
wackos and giving them guns?
Ramsey: in retrospect that
might have been a bad idea
Todd: why would a young
black person want to be cop?
Ramsey: that's good question
Todd: so much for diversity
Ramsey: I became a cop during the
turmoil of the 60s and my friends
thought I was nuts
Todd: and look at you now
Ramsey: right now cops have
a bad image across America
Todd: how do you fix that?
Ramsey: we never hear about
all the people cops don't murder
Todd: good point
Ramsey: we need get rid of
cops who are in the job to kill people
Todd: do cops lie to protect other cops?
Ramsey: well sure but that happens
in other professions all the time –
doctors commit perjury for other
doctors who kill people
Todd: they do?
Ramsey: lawyers cover for other lawyers
who frame innocent people and journalists
even provide cover for unethical
reporters in rival organizations
[ break ]
Todd: there's another crazy
non-politician running for President
Todd: how crazy is he? He was once
played in a movie by Cuba Gooding Jr
Todd: what do want to
accomplish in the debate?
Carson: people always ask me
to look at their rash and I hope to
be asked about things like ISIS
and not just that lump in your neck
Todd: you and Donald Trump
are both not politicians –
does he help or hurt you?
Carson: he helps me because
he's so crazy he makes me look sane
Todd: I see
Carson: I hope he keeps saying nutty things
Todd: you called Black Lives Matter silly
Carson: it's political correctness run amok!
Todd: there's a phrase I haven't heard in a while
Carson: but it's bad that the number
one cause of death for a young black man is homicide
Todd: but wait I thought all lives matter
Carson: they do
Todd: but you brought up black men
– isn't that being politically correct?
Carson: I always like to point out
to people what if we removed the
police for 24 hours there would be chaos
Todd: wow I never thought of that –
you are so wise to point out to people
we shouldn't get rid of all police
Carson: right we need to be more mature
Carson: if a plumber does a bad
job do we say let's go kill all plumbers?
Todd: whoa calm down Ben
Carson: I'm against plumber-murder
Todd: do you support amnesty for immigrants?
Carson: I know some idiots say
we got to round em up all they have
no idea what they are talking about
Todd: you're soft on immigrants
Carson: look I'd love to arrest 11 million
people but it would be too expensive
Todd: so what's your plan?
Carson: we should allow immigrants
to be permanent guest workers
Todd: interesting idea
Carson: that way we would have all
the benefits of their labor but they
would have none of the rights
Todd: it's a win-win
Carson: if the guest workers
want citizenship they have to get
behind everyone else in the world
Todd: that's amnesty
Carson: maybe but it's practical
Todd: does the Bible have
authority over the Constitution?
Carson: it would be depend on
which passage of the Bible you're
talking about and which part of the Constitution
Todd: it would?
Carson: like are we talking about
one of the important passages or
one of the ones we all ignore
Todd: I think I understand
Carson: like supposedly god
banned shellfish but that was before
they invented lobster in melted butter
Todd: you can't say no to that
Carson: or the ban on cruel and unusual
punishment which was written before
we found out waterboarding protects
us from balsa wood planes carrying anthrax
Todd: those are all good points
[ break ]
Todd: don't count out Donald Trump –
this country elected Arnold Schwarzenegger
and Jesse Ventura
Parker: if I were Jeb Bush I would
continue to be Ronald Reagan
Matthews: Donald Trump should
be careful – Megan Kelly will cut you
Cooper: I can't believe this
is actually happening
Seib: do we really want Donald
Trump with his finger on the button?
Todd: the Cold War is over Gerry
Seib: if we put Trump in charge of
getting ISIS we'll end up with 75,000
troops in the middle east
Todd: that's what Republican voters want!
Seib: oh shit
Todd: what happened to media
darlings Marco Rubio and Rand Paul?
Parker: Trump happened
Matthews: someone will pick up
Trump's voters when he implodes
Todd: who gets his votes?
Matthews: Kasich or Walker
Todd: you're a whig!
Todd: yes you are! You're a whig!
Todd: and that's another
episode of Meet The Press