Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Doris Kearns Goodwin
Todd: omg Donald Trump still leads
in all the polls!
Todd: on the other hand polls at
this stage are meaningless
Todd: then again Trump may rewrite the rules
Todd: Clinton says ISIS watches
you to recruit
Trump: just another Hillary lie
Todd: Trump never campaigns
or takes out ads but draws big crowds
and leads in the polls
Todd: and he rules social media
Trump: I'm the Earnest Hemingway of Twitter
Todd: and he's covered on
television more than anyone else
Todd: meanwhile Ted Cruz has
practically moved to Iowa
Todd: and he's feuding with Marco Rubio
Cruz: He supports amnesty
Rubio: so does Ted
Cruz: he's lying
Rubio: he's a poopyhead
[ break ]
Todd: welcome Donald Trump
Trump: just get to the questions Ted
Todd: Hillary Clinton said terrorists use
your crazy-ass statements about Muslims
to recruit more terrorists
Trump: Hillary lies like crazy – she's a liar!
Todd: if terrorists used your speeches to
recruit would you change your language
Trump: no because Hillary is weak
and no stamina
Trump: she left the stage
because she's weak
Todd: what the fuck are talking about?
Trump: Obama is also weak
Todd: are you any medication?
Trump: we need cunning and
strength and stamina which I have
and no one else does
Todd: well she traveled the world
Trump: she sat in a luxurious airplane
Todd: so do you
Trump: she killed lots of people
Trump: hundreds of thousands of people!
Trump: she wrecked Libya and Syria
Todd: oh okay
Trump: the Iran deal is a bad deal
Todd: why do you praise Putin?
Trump: no I never did
Todd: you called him a strong leader
Trump: of course I did because he
is a great leader with an 80% approval rating!
Todd: yes it's very high
Trump: I never said anything nice about him
Todd: you just did
Trump: no I didn't
Todd: yes you did
Trump: Putin doesn't like Obama
Todd: so you have something in common
Trump: I will work with Russia!
Todd: they are allied with Iran and Syria
Trump: that Iran deal was a terrible deal!
Trump: we don't get our prisoners back!
Todd: it was nuclear deal
Trump: Bush handed Iraq to
Iran on a silver platter
Todd: would the middle east
be more stable with Qaddafi
and Hussein still in power?
Trump: 100% – there's no doubt at all
Todd: so you would let Assad stay
Trump: let's fight ISIS first
Todd: that's what Bernie Sanders believes too
Trump: who gives a shit
what that old man thinks
Todd: some people do
Trump: when we support so-called
rebels anywhere they become bad guys
Todd: Jeb Bush said 'Donald Trump is a jerk'
Trump: his people gave him that quote
Trump: he's a weak and ineffective
and is low energy
Trump: he's a corporate puppet
Trump: I'm at 41% and he's a 2%
Trump: hes' an embarrassment
to the Bush family although he's
running away from the Bush name
Todd: Ted Cruz has passed you in Iowa
Trump: frankly I'm doing really well
there since I converted to evangelism
Todd: no doubt
Trump: I'm through the
roof in New Hampshire!
Todd: do you like Ted Cruz
Trump: believe it or not I
get along with everyone
Todd: I don't believe it
Todd: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Trump: yeah yeah yeah loser
[ break ]
Todd: welcome panelists –
what did you think of Trump?
Hewitt: I love how he took
the fight to Hillary Clinton!
Todd: Jeb Bush got under Trump's skin
Habermen: Jeb came close to getting
Donald to blow up but then he backed off
Todd: of course he did
[ break ]
Todd: the Democrats clashed last night!
Clinton: we need a long term plan for Syria
Sanders: we need to forget Assad
and go after ISIS
Todd: welcome Senator Sanders
Sanders: nice to see you again Chet
Todd: you say the Middle East would
be more stable with dictators in charge
Sanders: of course it would be more stable
Todd: you may be right
Sanders: it's easy to topple a dictator
Todd: so it would seem
Sanders: I was right about
the invasion of Iraq and also Libya
Todd: that's true
Sanders: we need to create broad coalitions
Todd: okay but Saudi Arabia is
more worried about Assad than ISIS
Sanders: good point Chuck
Todd: so it's a catch 22
Sanders: but we have leverage
and we should use it
Todd: how much will you raise
taxes on the middle class?
Sanders: we will tax money hidden in the
Cayman Islands and Wall Street speculation
Todd: what else
Sanders: raise the estate tax!
Todd: okay but what about the middle class
Sanders: but I also think we should
tax everyone to pay for family leave
Todd: is that all?
Sanders: yes it is
Todd: do you think the DNC is treating you fairly?
Sanders: no the DNC is not competent
Todd: I see
Sanders: my staff screwed up
but the DNC overreacted
Todd: you staff stole Clinton's data
Sanders: yeah but that information
just came into our campaign
Todd: by magic?
Sanders: no by incompetence
Todd: so you got it by accident?
Sanders: my staff screwed up okay
Todd: thanks for coming Bernie
Sanders: you too Tad
[ break ]
Todd: welcome John Podesta
Podesta: hiya Charles
Todd: Hillary said ISIS used Trump videos
to recruit but there's no proof of that
Podesta: ISIS uses Trump as a recruitment
tool on social media – it's a well known fact
Podesta: yes go look at their Facebook page
Todd: I don't use Facebook
– I'm not a senior citizen
Podesta: well my grandparents love it
Todd: you stand by it your
statement about ISIS?
Podesta: yes we do
Todd: what about the voter data
Podesta: Sanders' people act like
'oops this pilfered data just fell in our lap'
– they searched for it and they got caught
Podesta: and the guy who did it wasn't 20
– he's a 39 year-old Ph.D. and senior campaign guy
Todd: fair point
Podesta: they did something unethical
and act like we're the bad guys
Podesta: this is a pattern and cultural problem
where they say don't want to fight dirty or
have a Super PAC and then they do
Todd: thanks for coming
[ break ]
Todd: nice to see you Mr. Speaker
Ryan: great to be here Chuck
Todd: the budget deal was
a huge win for liberals
Ryan: hey you can't get everything you want
Todd: you used to hate Omnibus bills
– were you naïve?
Ryan: I took this job knowing I would get hit
Todd: and you were right
Ryan: look we gave stuff to oil industry
and cut taxes for rich people
Todd: conservatives feel
betrayed by you
Ryan: screw those people
Todd: strong language
Ryan: it's talk radio nonsense
– I'm getting things done
Todd: you raised spending and
cut taxes – what about the deficit?
Ryan: wrong because tax cuts raise money
Todd: right I forgot
Ryan: also we didn't cut taxes
– we just didn't raise them
Todd: what else can you get done?
Ryan: criminal justice reform
Todd: what about the trade bill?
Ryan: I haven't read it
Todd: ok I won't spoil it then
Ryan: Obama has succeeded
in transforming this country!
Todd: you criticized Trump but
he's more popular that you are
Ryan: I want to cut taxes and welfare
Todd: but you don't hate Muslims
Ryan: hey it's a big tent
Todd: are you concerned about
his remarks about Muslims
Ryan: religious freedom is a natural right
Todd: are you enjoying this job
Ryan: yeah it's not all that bad
Todd: that's nice
Ryan: I want to run Congress
they way the Founders intended
– from lower Manhattan
Todd: we're in a polarizing time
– can we get along?
Ryan: no because Barack Obama
is very polarizing
Todd: you keeping trying to repeal
Obamacare – isn't that polarizing?
Ryan: because it s a bad law!
Todd: but it is polarizing
Ryan: yeah I suppose so
Todd: so how do we get out of this cycle?
Ryan: appeal to what unifies us
Todd: what's that
Ryan: identity politics divides us
Todd: I see
Ryan: both sides do it and it's wrong
Todd: it's so sad
Ryan: leaders should lead
and unifiers should unify
Todd: fine sentiments
Ryan: I'm a Jack Kemp Ronald Reagan
Happy Warrior Conservative
[ break ]
Todd: so panel is conservatism cracking up?
Goodwin: they're breaking up
over immigration and war
Todd: this is like Teddy Roosevelt's
split with the GOP
Goodwin: just like 1912!
Diaz-Balart: Cruz flip-flopped
Todd: a bit
Diaz-Balart: they use words like 'amnesty'
and 'legalization' but they don't know
what they mean
Haberman: Cruz is running against
Washington and Rubio is saying
we're not all that different
Todd: so who's the winner in that fight?
Haberman Donald Trump
Hewitt: Christie wins by not fighting
Hewitt: I love mark Levin but he's
wrong – Paul Ryan is young and
handsome and awesome
Todd: December leaders never win in
– 2012 it was Gingrich and in 2008
Clinton was ahead and in 2004 Howard
Dean was the front-runner
Goodwin: maybe this time is different –
Trump has gotten so much free publicity
Balart: it's about Demographics –
they're going to lose Hispanics
Hewitt: this is going to be a national
security election and Clinton embraced
Libya last night - we win!
Hewitt: this was a good weekend for
the Republicans! It was a good week for
the Republicans! It was a good month!
A good year for the Republicans!
Todd: calm down Hugh
[ break ]
Todd: Clinton ISIS loves Trump which
is probably true but no one can find proof
Haberman: it will be a problem for her
Haberman: Although this is post truth election
Haberman: also Obama is bad President
Goodwin: she's showing real confidence now
Todd: she's running for the general
Diaz-Balart: families are being torn
apart because of immigration laws
Hewitt: everyone at Christmas dinner will
be talking about Clinton's comment about Trump
Todd: Hugh do you really think
Trump can win?
Hewitt: no one trusts Hillary!
Todd: no one trust Trump either
Diaz-Balart: feliz navidad
Todd: I speak Spanish - I'm from Miami
Todd: I asked the candidates –
what's the first concert you went to?
Kasich: I hate country music
Sanders: Pete Seeger
Cruz: Men at Work
Trump: the Beatles
Jeb: Say it loud – I'm black and I'm proud
Todd: Neil Diamond
Todd: and that another
episode of Meet the Press