Meet The Press – November 23, 2014

Guests: 
Sens. Jeff Flake (R-AZ)

Robert Menendez (D-NJ)

Rudy Giuliani

Anthony Gray

John Hofmeister - Former CEO Shell Oil

Daniel Yergin

Ron Allen

Rasheen Aldridge

Anthony Gray

Michael Eric Dyson

Amy Walter

Rudy Giuliani

Joe Scarborough

Todd: OMG is going to defer deportations

and increase border security

Boehner: Obama is an emperor!

Cruz: he's a monarch!

McConnell: he's a butterfly

Obama: sting like a bee!

Immigrant: I want to go to college 

and become a nurse

Immigrant: my mother can stop

being terrified of being deported

Arpaio: I love immigrants which is why 

I want to put 5 million people in jail

Yang: what if undocumented people

were deported from Arizona?

Immigrant: there would be no one left

Farmer: we need immigrants

or farming would stop

Yang: we asked Republicans

for comment and they declined

Todd: welcome Jeff Flake

Flake: hi Todd

Todd: what about the President's order?

Flake: we need more border enforcement

Todd: do you support Sherriff Arpaio's

lawsuit against the President

Flake: he's an idiot

Todd: Bob was this Constitutional?

Menendez: yes Reagan and Bush

did the same thing

Todd: perhaps

Menendez: look he's going to deport

more felons and let good people 

stay in America

Todd: Jeff are against the policy?

Flake: no I support the policy

Todd: you do?

Flake: yes – it's just the way he

did it I disagree with

Todd: aren't immigration activists

upset because now Obama has made

it impossible for all laws to be passed

Menendez: that's only true if John Boehner

is a big baby and the Republicans

act like spoiled children

Todd: the Republicans issued a

report saying there was no

wrongdoing in Benghazi

Flake: Susan Rice lied on Meet The Press!

Todd: Obama is increasing troops 

in Afghanistan

Menendez: we have to make sure

we don't lose Afghanistan like we lost Iraq

Todd: good point

Todd: Republicans used to support

Presidential action on immigration

and now 80% oppose it

Scarborough: look Obama may have

overstepped his bounds the GOP

is in a tough spot

Todd: okay

Scarborough: the answer is to sue

the President and use his own 

words against him

Obama on tape: I'm not an emperor!

Todd: lots of legal scholars 

say Obama is wrong

Diaz-Balart: Obama has deported 

two million people!

Scarborough: Obama violated the 
separation of powers

Todd: shouldn't he have given Congress 

five more months?

Walter: George H.W. Bush did the

exact same thing and the media 

didn't have a fit

Scarborough: yes but that was cleaning up

Richardson: Obama has helped 

five million immigrants and got 

10 million people health care

Scarborough: oh god

Todd: he's right Joe – long-term you're screwed

[ break ]

Allen: you're only 20 and the

Governor put you on a commission

Aldridge: we need change

such as a livable wage

Allen: the Governor has already

declared a state of emergency

which seems like overkill

Holder: the Justice department

encourages police to avoid

needless confrontation

Aldridge: you can only be pushed so far

Allen: the grand jury is very

secretive and the community doesn't

trust that the process if fair

Todd: what are you worried about?

Gray: there's a lot of anxiety

because they don't trust

Todd: do people want a trial

Gray: maybe

Todd: what did you think of a

preemptive state of emergency

Giuliani: I would have put the police

on heightened alert but kept it quiet

Todd: keep it on the down low

Giuliani: no one explains the

grand jury process – do people

know grand jury secrecy is

there to protect innocent people

which I care so much about

Todd: good point

Giuliani: people who are pressuring

this grand jury should be ashamed

Todd: yes they should

Giuliani: also if they don't indict

it will definitely create a massive riot

Todd: is it wise for the police to 

prepare for a war?

Dyson: what should be indicted 
is the system itself!

Todd: whoa

Dyson: the police should act

not a like an occupying army

Todd: Rudy there are a lot of towns

where the citizens are black and

the police are all white

Giuliani: going back to Koch and

Dinkins we tried to diversify the NYPD

Todd: thankfully there are no problems

with African-Americans and the police

in New York City now

Giuliani: I find it very disappointing that

you are not mentioning that 93% of blacks

in American are killed by other blacks

Todd: 90% of blacks are killed?

Giuliani: the media never mentions 

black murderers!

Dyson: the different you idiot is that black

criminals go to jail and they are not

employed by the government to kill people

Giuliani: you don't care about black murders!

Dyson: black people who kill black

people go to jail you fool

Todd: it's a trust issue

Giuliani: that's why there are cops

are in black neighborhoods

Dyson: that's a false equivalency

Giuliani: what about the little black

child killed by another black child

Dyson: you're saying there's no

difference between police and murderers

Giuliani: all the crimes in New York City

are in the black neighborhoods!

Dyson: oh no he didn't

Giuliani: why don't you black people stop committing crimes!

Dyson: what??

Giuliani: you black people are all

killing each other so shut up about the police

[ break ]

Todd: what's with the state of emergency?

Richardson: calling in the National Guard

before an indictment announcement 

was a bit much

Todd: interesting

Richardson: we should diversify 

the police force

Todd: it's almost as the people

and media will be disappointed

if there is no violence

Scarborough: it's obvious there is a

double standard for young black men

but let's also be fair to this

poor police officer

Diaz-Balart: don't complain –

register and vote!

Todd: if the price of gas is dropping –

so why is Washington so obsessed

with a pipeline that will pump

Canadian oil to China?

Boxer: we're all gonna die!

Landrieu: we'll all be saved!

Todd: it will create 35 jobs but the

oil is being sent by truck anyway

Todd: oil is cheap now anyway and

the US may soon be the biggest

oil producer in the world!

Todd: are we energy independent?

Yergin: almost

Todd: that's stunning

Yergin: OPEC is in a total panic

Todd: this helps us pressure Iran and Russia

Hofmeister: the price of oil dropping

hurts their economies

Todd: fascinating

Hofmeister: but we need

more and more oil!

Todd: there's very little regulation

Yergin: well there was a rapid

boom in North Dakota

Todd: is there enough regulation?

Hofmeister: true there has been

a rush to drill without regulation

but we need the oil and the oil

companies want regulation

Yergin: domestic oil production

makes the U.S. strong

Todd: you want carbon regulation?

Hofmeister: Republicans have trashed

cap and trade but it's actually a good idea

Todd: raising the question why Obama

has failed to make Republicans support it

[ break ]

Todd: dozens of women have said

Bill Cosby raped them over 30 years

Dyson: I hated Bill Cosby before it was cool

Todd: this is so sad because he

united white and black America with his

gentle humor about how horrible being

married with kids is

Dyson: so true

Todd: who knew the man selling us 

pudding pops was a psychopath out 

of Hannibal Lecter novel

Walter: unbelievable

Todd: Amy you grew up in the 80s 
so you know what I mean

Walter: yes The Cosby Show was

a touchstone for people our age

Todd: I was talking about Fat Albert

Walter: this is about how institutions 
fail us all especially women

Todd: say it ain't so Joe!

Scarborough: I grew up with Bill Cosby comedy records

Dyson: the internet has exposed rape culture

Richardson: the system doesn't

deal with sex assault well

Todd: just look at the University of Virginia

which is like a institution for raping 

girls which happens to do some 

education on the side

Walter: it's incredible

Todd: and that's another

episode of Meet The Press