Loretta Sanchez (D-CA)
Carolyn Ryan (NYT)
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)
Jesselyn Radack (Snowden Legal Advisor)
Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Gregory: OMG there was another
mall shooting in Maryland
Todd: Obama is not going to
talk about gun control but economics
Todd: this is the last ever State of
the Union by Obama that anyone
will ever care about
Murphy: exactly – this is the
last one he will ever give
Sanchez: that's stupid – the President
has influence every day he is President
Gregory: good point Loretta –
but on the other hand I hate Obama
Sanchez: we all know that Fluffy
Gregory: let's stop talking substance
– I hate that
Ryan: there is a stampede of people
who don't think Obama is relevant
Gregory: Let me talk to a Republican –
Rand Paul you say Obama is immoral
Paul: I'm a tea partier and even I'm
amazed at how much you
hate Obama David
Paul: yes – I'm working with Obama
now on infrastructure spending and
other things we do agree on
Gregory: well I still love you
Paul: thanks Greggers
Gregory: how can we get you
Paul: I want to cut spending and
give money to businesses
Gregory: but we have to fight Republicans
like Ted Cruz to get you the nomination
Paul: my Dad was a genuine guy
who was beloved by black people
Gregory: is the federal government a tyranny?
Paul: yes like when government
does too much
Gregory: you called Edward Snowden a hero
Paul: no I said he honestly believed
he was right and brought abuses to
light but also people in intelligence
have to obey the law and keep secrets
Gregory: so how should he be rewarded?
Paul: he should be punished
but not with the death penalty
Gregory: so what should his punishment be?
Paul: I don't know but Clapper lied
to Congress which is also against the law
Gregory: Rep. Mike Rogers says
Snowden is a Russian spy
Paul: well he is in Russia which
has no privacy so that's suspicious
Gregory: but is he a spy?
Paul: I don't know what Mike Rogers
is talking about
Gregory: Huckabee says Democrats
say women have an uncontrollable libido
Paul: I fought the war on women
and women won
Gregory: they did?
Paul: yes – my sister is an ob gyn
and I know a girl in veterinary school
Gregory: what about ladies' libidos?
Paul: women have a come a long way baby
– women in my family are doing great
Paul: we should extol their success
not attack them with basic health coverage
Gregory: you have an ongoing
feud with Chris Christie
Paul: he's the King of Bacon
Gregory: your feud is like the east coast
– west coast rap wars but with two
white guys battling to see who can
win over other angry white guys
Paul: ha ha
Gregory: do you think Chris Christie
could get the GOP nomination?
Gregory: why not?
Paul: because Republicans are
Gregory: since when?
Paul: since January 2009
Gregory: right I forgot
Paul: we can't borrow money
from China just to help some
pathetic New Jeresyans hit by a hurricane
Gregory: if Hillary Clinton runs
for President will you bring
up Monica Lewinsky?
Paul: yes because she was a 20 year-old intern
Gregory: please continue
Paul: Bill took advantage of a young girl!
Gregory: so you would use this
against Hillary Clinton?
Paul: yes because of the
so-called war on women
Gregory: I see
Paul: if anyone in my community did
what Bill Clinton did he would be
shunned by decent society
Gregory: like someone who
writes racist newsletters?
Paul: no fair!!
[ break ]
Gregory: Dick what about Monica Lewinsky?
Durbin: yes let's all revisit the impeachment
– that will certainly improve Republicans chances
Gregory: let's talk about Ed Snowden
Durbin: he ignited a debate but he
was also trusted with valuable
information and violated his oath
and we can't overlook that
Gregory: Mike Rogers says
Snowden might be a Russia spy
Durbin: I haven't seen any evidence of that
Gregory: what about bulk
collection of metadata?
Durbin: we have to come up with an alternative
Gregory: what can we expect
from Congress in 2014?
Durbin: a new era of bipartisanship
Gregory: are you kidding??
Durbin: yes – we have a budget now
and we might even get a farm bill
Gregory: dare to dream –
what about the debt ceiling?
Durbin: the government shutdown
burned Republicans so hopefully
they've learned their lesson
Gregory: when we come back – more Ed Snowden!
[ break ]
Gregory: what about the Clintons [ giggle ]
Powell: they are a galactic force! [ giggle ]
Gregory: what about Hillary!? [ giggle ]
Sanchez: she's a great Senator
Gregory: but Monica Lewinsky! [ giggles ]
Sanchez: she was a terrific Secretary
of State and by the way Bill Clinton
is very popular
Gregory: but she's really old
Ryan: she comes from a dynastic family
Gregory: exactly all these Clintons
keep getting elected
Ryan: also populists want Wall
Street bankers arrested which
should hurt Hillary
Murphy: Bill Clinton is a terrible
problem because of all the sex he has
Todd: voters will be hungry to end
polarization and the Clintons are polarizing
Sanchez: polarizing?! Hillary is
popular among Republicans!
Powell: Hillary Clinton has been away
from politics for so long she missed
when gay people and pot became popular
Gregory: well who can win?
Powell: Chris Christie – we need
someone down and dirty
Gregory: we need someone dirty?
Powell: yes – Republicans wants
someone rough and a little criminal
Murphy: Christie didn't know
about Bridgegate – but he's tough
Todd: well is he tough and dirty
or clean and ignorant?
Gregory: let's stop and say nice
things about Mitt Romney for a few minutes
[ shows clip for documentary movie “Mitt” ]
Gregory: [ ha ha ha ha ha ]
I love him
Murphy: it show politicians are not caricatures
Sanchez: the movie shows how
hard politics are on the family
Ryan: he has a good sense of humor
Gregory: Anne Romney is so nice
Murphy: he's a wonderful man
Todd: if you're thinking of running for
President go watch this documentary
and then you won't
[ break ]
Gregory: when we come back
more Ed Snowden – I promise!
[ break ]
Gregory: Eric Holder says the DOJ is
willing to enter into conversations with Snowden
Radack: yes but he took amnesty off
the table which is disheartening
Gregory: I see
Radack: also Ed Snowden has
suffered a great deal already
Gregory: how so?
Radack: the government took away
his passport and he's being forced
to live in Russia
Gregory: Mike Rogers says he
might be a Russian spy
Radack: it shows the government
is desperate since the government
panel found NSA programs might
be illegal and ineffective
Radack: even the FBI says he acted alone!
Gregory: thanks – say to Eddie for me
[ break ]
Gregory: welcome Mr Chertoff –
how can we get Ed Snowden back to America?
Chertoff: how the hell should I know fluffy?
Gregory: is it irresponsible to call him a spy?
Chertoff: well now that depends
on if he is a spy
Gregory: hmmm interesting point
Gregory: some people like Snowden
and some don't
Chertoff: I don't like him and I don't like you
Gregory: his lawyers says he's
been punished enough
Chertoff: he's free in Russia and
regaling the world – he's not being punished
Gregory: can he get a fair trial?
Chertoff: of course he can
Gregory: I suppose so
Chertoff: but he would be found guilty
Gregory: see that's unfair because he
says under the Constitution every
intelligence employee gets to decide
which secrets to divulge
Chertoff: sorry I wasn't listening --
I was contemplating killing
you right now
Gregory: what about security at
the Sochi Olympics?
Chertoff: we need cooperation
with the Russians
Gregory: do we have that?
Chertoff: how the hell would I know?
Gregory: the Olympics are a hard target! [ grins fatuously ]
Chertoff: and people think I'm weird
Gregory: should we have barricades
in front of schools and malls?
Chertoff: you can't make a mall a
fortress but you can teach people
to shelter in place
[ break ]
Smith: Billie Jean King fought for equal
prize money which made her a rabble rouser
King: I was determined to fight for equality
Smith: she thrashed Bobby Riggs
King: lots of women went to
work the next day and asked for a raise
Smith: you were outed as a lesbian in 1981
King: I lost all my endorsements
but it led my to more truth
Smith: you're a pioneer
King: I am but never thought
of myself that way
Smith: is there a message
in your going to Sochi?
King: our very presence is a message
Smith: terrorists might hit Sochi
King: I'm not worried – we have to be there!
Smith: will we ever have female president?
King: sure – hopefully soon?
Smith: how about an openly gay President?
King: not in my lifetime
Smith: what's your message to the world?
King: stay true to yourself
Gregory: and that's another
episode of Meet The Press