Fmr. Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL)
Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Todd: omg Jeb Bush's failed
spectacularly at the debate!
Todd: his new slogan is 'Jeb Can Fix It!'
– but can he?
Todd: I sat down with Jeb Bush to ask
him what the fuck is wrong with him
Todd: good afternoon Jeb
Bush: nice to be here Ted
Todd: do you still want to be President?
Bush: actually I'd rather be
playing with my model trains
Todd: that makes sense
Bush: I have an amazing setup
in my basement
Todd: so will you drop out?
Bush: I would but mommy won't let me
Todd: oh no?
Bush: no she says we have to have
at least one Bush who didn't fail at
President and now it's my turn
Todd: can you understand why some
supporters find that less than inspiring?
Bush: no not at all
Bush: yes really
Todd: do you not understand why
people don't want to volunteer for a
third-generation aristocrat who would
rather be playing with trains?
Bush: that's just the liberal media talking
Todd: actually no one likes you
Bush: we got 300 people in New Hampshire!
Todd: Obama got 250,000 in Germany
Bush: only because they love
black people there
Todd: in the debate young Marco Rubio
smacked you around and you didn't fight back
Bush: I got cut off
Todd: that's your excuse?
Bush: it was a weird debate
Todd: no doubt about that
Bush: I wanted to stand up for
myself but the moderator stopped me
Bush: I was a governor and I
accomplished big things!
Todd: how nice for you
Bush: marco is nice person but
he's never accomplished anything
Todd: good put down
Bush: Hillary Clinton never did anything either
Todd: yeah you said that already
Bush: I can break the gridlock and
change the culture in Washington
Todd: did you watch the debate?
Bush: no – I don't like fantasy television
Todd: do you want to be a good
debater some day?
Bush: yes I'd like to maybe
Todd: how do you do that?
Bush: I'll do a reset – I'm grinder
Todd: okay then
Bush: those things are not debates
Todd: well whatever you
call them you suck at it
Bush: I can speak in sentences
Todd: how nice for you
Bush: I have ideas
Todd: how nice
Bush: Obama caused the recession
in 2007 and it breaks my heart
Todd: yes that's so sad
Bush: America has never gone
through this anything like this before
Todd: well maybe in the Civil War
or the 19th century depression or the
Great Depression or the Bush recession
or the Bush Depression
Bush: okay except for those times
Bush: but we can have a true time of
abundance if only cut taxes for rich people
Todd: you're very frustrated
Bush: no I'm not
Todd: you said you wanted to
quit and do other cool things
Bush: no I was saying don't
elect me if you want gridlock
Todd: bold stand indeed
Bush: I got a standing ovation
– just ask Tim Scott
Todd: I did and he said no one likes you
Bush: he did??
Todd: no I'm just kidding
Bush: I'm going to shake up the system
Todd: your grandfather was a Senator
and your Dad and brother were both
President and you're going to shake
up the system?
Bush: I'm going to crush the establishment!
Todd: when I look up Establishment
in the dictionary there's a picture
of your family
Bush: I want to help poor people by
cutting taxes and regulations on rich people
Todd: you say Republicans appeal
to people's fears and emotions
Bush: message – 'I am optimistic'
Todd: who's a pessimist?
Bush: Donald Trump
Todd: how about Ben Carson?
Bush: he's a bit of an optimist
Todd: he's a bit of a loon
Bush: I believe America is
on the verge of greatness
Todd: people are skeptical
of a guy named Bush
Bush: yeah – I've got to go earn it
Todd: indeed you do
Bush: my campaign is has
hit a rocky place no doubt
Todd: that much is certain
Bush: but fighting and getting wounded
and killed in any one of my family's many
wars is harder than running for President
Bush: true enough
Todd: you said early on you were willing
to lose the primary and I've got to give
you credit you certainly proven it
Bush: I'm not going to prey on people's fears
Todd: of course not
Bush: you can't win playing to
people's anger and frustrations
Todd: you said you want to work with
Democrats – will that anger GOP primary voters?
Bush: Obama is a divider-in-chief!
Todd: you don't think the GOP is divisive?
Bush: well of course it is
Todd: just checking
Bush: Hillary thinks the GOP are her enemy!
Todd: I can't imagine why
Bush: Reagan did it!
Todd: you think the Bush family
is entitled to the White House
Bush: no but I would kill someone for my dad
Todd: anyone in particular?
Bush: I would go to prison for my dad
Todd: you think that's likely to come up?
Bush: hey you never know
Todd: your father is an old school patrician
who hates Donald Trump because he's a
low class guy from Queens
Bush: my dad is obsessed with
the Sunday talk shows
Todd: so he's the one
Bush: yeah he can't get enough of them
Todd: what about litmus tests for cabinet positions?
Bush: I oppose litmus tests but I would
apply them to the Supreme Court
Todd: what about a Constitutional
amendment to ban abortion?
Bush: life is a gift from god and
I don't intend on wasting it
Todd: that's a line from 'Titanic'
Bush: Bar and Poppy were on the
'California' and said keep sailing
Todd: what about the death penalty
Bush: boy that's another tough one
Todd: just man up and answer John
Bush: it's not a deterrent and costs too much
Todd: that's probably right
Bush: it's hard for me to sign a
death warrant because I'm such
a devout christian
Todd: so you're against it?
Bush: but then again families
need closure so I did it anyway
Todd: um okay
Bush: we should execute people more quickly!
Todd: wait I'm confused – now you're for it?
Bush: the death penalty isn't an either / or thing
Todd: it kind of is
Bush: in what way?
Todd: you're “either” for it “or”
you're against it
Bush: oh I see
Todd: well duh
Bush: I can see both sides
Bush: on one hand human life
is a gift from god
Bush: but on the other hand the first
obligation of the state to is make relatives
of crime victims happy
Todd: what exceptions would you
make when taking bodily control
away from Americans
Bush: rape and incest and life of the mother
Todd: but not 'health of the mother'
Bush: no that's stupid
Todd: what would someone
who doesn't like you say about you
Bush: as Governor I said said
'my way or the highway'
Todd: you were too dogmatic when
you were was governor of Florida
Todd: you didn't compromise
Bush: I fought and I had a heart
Todd: you did?
Bush: yes it was in a jar on my desk
Bush: I was a servant leader
Todd: thanks for coming
Bush: you too
[ break ]
Todd: David Brooks you say
time has passed Jeb Bush by
Brooks: he nice guy but he's too
much of a WASP and a gentleman
Todd: but the Bush family
plays vicious politics – let's go to the tape
Todd: your campaign blasted Rubio
Bush: I never saw that piece
Todd: excuse me but it's from your campaign
Bush: I dont know anything about that
Todd: omg hes a politician!
Gearan: he's trying to kill the king but failing
Todd: he said he didn't respond
to Rubio because the moderator
wouldn't let him
Bai: hes never given anyone a
reason to elect him President
Cooper: Bush and Rubio could win a
general election and now they've got
to go after each other
Todd: what evidence is there that
Jeb is electable?
Brooks: he should saying “I'm going to
be your sedative and your laxative”
Todd: you're a weird one David
Gearan: the campaign is very
corporate and Bush-like
Todd: sounds great
Gearan: we're too tough on our candidates
– especially when they're named Bush
Bai: it's too early to write
candidates off – you never know!
Brooks: it feels like it's coming down
to Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio
Brooks: I'm assuming Trump and
Carson go away
Todd: keep assuming David
[ break ]
Todd: here's a nerdscreen about how
long people waited between running for office
Todd: omg it's been 14 years since the
last time Jeb ran for office!
Todd: George H.W. Bush waited 10 years
between running for Congress in 1970 and
for President in 1980 where he lost
Todd: welcome Mister Speaker
Ryan: please call me Speaker Paul
Todd: all right
Ryan: I never wanted to be Speaker
Todd: it just fell in your lap!
Ryan: we need to be on offense
Todd: you have a lot of political
capital right now
Ryan: we're going to start over
Todd: how so?
Ryan: run Congress like the
Todd: from Wall Street?
Ryan: we Republicans need
to be more effective
Todd: might as well try anything once
Ryan: also we have to be
a good alternative party
Todd: go for it
Ryan: we need a bold specific agenda!
Todd: are you going to do all that yourself?
Ryan: no I'm no dictator
Todd: good to know
Ryan: we're bold in hating
Obama but timid on alternative ideas
Todd: give me an example
Ryan: there are too many poor people!
Ryan: we should probably have
a health care plan
Todd: what about Donald Trump?
Ryan: Trump would be a much
better President than Clinton
Todd: oh man you're as
crazy as the others
Ryan: but with better biceps
Todd: would allow an
immigration bill up for a vote?
Ryan: I would pass an immigration bill but Obama hurt my feelings so I won't
Todd: that's incredibly petty
Ryan: it would be good for America
but the Republicans are having
a temper tantrum
Todd: I can't believe you're admitting to this
Ryan: yes we're purposefully hurting the
country because we don't like the President
Ryan: we should build a big wall!
Todd: so you're refusing all immigration
reform as long as the guy from Kenya
Todd: and you flat-out refuse to work with him
Ryan: that's right
Todd: anything else?
Ryan: Obama is the divider in chief!
Todd: should we dock the
pay of Congress if they miss votes?
Ryan: hat's a cheap shot
Todd: Ted Cruz doesn't like you
Ryan: so what?
Todd: who is a neglected minority?
Ryan: Republicans in Congress
Todd: they're all rich white men who
have the biggest majority in decades
Ryan: see how they suffer?
Todd: you want to spend time
with your family so do you favor
paid family leave?
Ryan: no way – that's a brand
new entitlement program!
Todd: I get it
Ryan: we should all go to more
Todd: it's a fun past time
Ryan: I'm going to commute from Wisconsin
Todd: that's pretty far
Ryan: I'll manage
Todd: will you continue to
sleep in your office?
Ryan: it's very comfortable
Todd: does smell of smoke
Ryan: oh god it's awful
Ryan: no really it's terrible
Todd: thanks for coming
Ryan: you too Todd
[ break ]
Todd: so what's the deal with
Cooper: the GOP has moved the right and
will destroy Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio
Todd: the GOP want a fighter
with an apocalyptic message
Bai: we were all disappointed by
Obama because he didn't fix
the Republican party
Todd: the irony is that young
politicians are often risk averse
Todd: Obama was sold to us a
bold guy but really he was cautious
Todd: Jeb Bush is actually bold!
Gearan: Paul Ryan is not risk averse
but very bold
Todd: Obama is putting 50 boots on the ground in Syria
Obama: boots on the ground would be a mistake!
Todd: omg Obama broke his promise!
Cooper: there were always U.S.
boots on the ground in Syria
Todd: I guess so
Cooper: remember Obama opposed
the Iraq war
Cooper: I sense sarcasm there Chuck
Chuck: you don't say!
Cooper: they want to form a
big coalition against Syria
Brooks: boots on the ground makes
no sense because some of our troops
Todd: god you're dumb
Brooks: I give him credit because
the region is falling apart of course
America has to take charge
Todd: but Obama is so timid!
Gearan: yes right
Todd: I talk to Jeb Bush some more!
Todd: what are your thoughts on
Obama sending troops to Iraq?
Bush: the surge worked! We fixed Iraq!
Todd: sorry I mean intelligent thoughts
Bush: we should have armed the Kurds!
Todd: so do we need a new surge?
Bush: we should do what Obama is doing
Todd: Ted Cruz and Trump want
to stay out of the middle east
Bai: we're still stuck in these wars
– its incredible
Todd: it is taking a while
Bai: it's a long term ideological struggle!
Todd: Clinton is advocating for more intervention
Cooper: well so is Obama
Todd: good point
Bai: Bernie Sanders is a guy with
a thick Brooklyn accent and
that's not Presidential
Todd: Hillary had an amazing 10 days
and their air is out of the Sanders balloon
Cooper: you cannot defeat the Clinton juggernaut!
Todd: her team slightly accused
him of sexism and it unnerved Sanders
Gearan: yeah I don't know
Todd: is he a good foil for her
Brooks: he lost the moment he took the e-mails off the table
Todd: but he's well to her left
Brooks: he has to win by calling her dishonest
Todd: Paul Ryan went to Halloween
was dressed as Romney!
Todd: college football!
Cooper I hate Duke!
Todd: and that's another
episode of Meet The Press