Guests:
Eric
Adams - Brooklyn
Borough President
David
Boies – Lawyer for Sony
Kal
Penn - actor
Chris
Matthews
Bill
Richardson - (D-NM)
Michael
Chertoff – fmr Bush White House
Director of Homeland Security
Michael
Leiter – Counter-terrorism official
Christopher
Hill – fmr. Amb. to South Korea
Sen.
Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Sarah
Fagan – fmr Bush WH political director
John Nolte – Breitbart News
Todd:
holy shit two New York City
cops
were shot while sitting in their car
Todd:
the killer came from
Baltimore
and hated cops
Todd:
the union head says the
Mayor
has blood on his hands
Adams:
we need to come together to heal
Todd:
I see
Adams:
I was a cop for 22
years
so I know hard it is
Todd:
are protesters to
blame for
the murders?
Adams:
not at all – the blame is
on the murderer
Todd:
you disappoint me
Adams:
innocent people
should
not die in America
Todd:
c'mon say something
horribly
controversial
Adams:
no
Todd:
how do you fix the trust issue
between
Mayor and the cops
Adams:
It doesn't need fixing -
cops
just need to get up every
day
and do their jobs
Todd:
are you concerned that this
killing
of two cops will stop reform?
Adams:
no because this is a movement
– we're
not going to let one sick individual
stop
us from improving relations between
police
and the community
[
break ]
Todd:
who could have guessed
Seth
Rogan would start WWIII?
Obama:
we can't let dictators dictate
which piece of recycled crap
Hollywood pushes on us
Sony:
we so did not cave!
McCain:
grrrr!!!
Obama:
the North Korea leaders
are
a bunch of big babies
Rob
Lowe: Sony is just like
Neville Chamberlain!
Obama:
Boston still ran the marathon !
Todd:
David what's your take on Dear Hacker
Boies:
look movie theaters got
very
specific threats of violence
Todd:
fair point
Boies:
no one stood up for Sony
when it counted
Todd:
Obama says he would have
called
the movie theaters personally
and
told them to show the movie
and
also be honest and just start
serving
popcorn in buckets
Boies:
this is a state sponsored
attack on Americans!
Todd:
wow!
Boies:
if the NSA exposed someone's
e-mails
the whole internet would
have
been outraged
Todd:
was this terrorism?
Boies:
this was a state-sponsored
attack
on privacy and people should
stop
aiding and abetting it
Todd:
could Sony be sued if a
movie
theater was attacked?
Boies:
maybe – but look these were real
threats
and no one stepped up to defend
Sony
when the threats were public
Todd:
should the government pass
a
law saying Sony can't be sued?
Boies:
the FBI has been good but
the
whole government needs to
get
behind stopping these attacks
Todd:
should the President
said
Sony made a mistake?
Boies:
it was good he said we can't
have
state-sponsored attacks on Americans
Todd:
okay
Boies:
but he should have blasted
the
attack earlier instead of blaming the victim
Todd:
did Sony's decision to cancel
the
movie bother your fellow actors?
Penn:
look I feel bad for Sony but
it sets a bad precedent
Todd:
what else could they do?
Penn:
they could it on pay-per-view
if they wanted
Todd:
is Sony getting what they deserve?
Penn:
hey I made a movie about two
dudes
in Gitmo and we mocked
George W. Bush
Todd: you're
a conservative
but
you defended Sony
Nolte:
it's not Sony's job to fight
terrorists
– it's their job to make money
Todd:
some banks make money
working
with terrorists
Nolte:
the government should shield
Sony
from liability and then we can
all
go see the movie
Matthews:
Obama had to be Churchill!
Todd:
go on Chris
Matthews:
we have to be resilient!
Todd:
yeah but there are still
active
lawsuits from 9/11
Matthews:
I get it – Sony should
get double indemnity - ha!
Todd:
who knew North Korea could do this?
Richardson:
I sure didn't
Todd:
was it terrorism?
Richardson:
we need to lean on China
Todd:
will this have a chilling effect
and
will Hollywood start turning out
derivative
crap and terrible remakes and
endless
shitty sequels instead the wonderful
inspiring
creative art they are known for?
Penn:
it's possible Todd
Todd:
why are you the only
one
who is willing to speak out publicly
Penn:
I dunno – why not speak out?
Todd:
are actors scared?
Penn:
no it's just hard to know else
there
is to say – the hack is bad and
the
movie should be released if possible
Todd:
okay then
[ break ]
Leiter:
if it took a Sony hack to get
action
on cyber-security there's a silver lining
Todd:
was this terrorism?
Chertoff:
yes – it destroyed things
and threatened
violence in order
to change behavior
Todd:
what can we do?
Hill:
North Korea has a third-world economy
but
half of all North Koreans are
employed as cyber-terrorists
Todd:
so what do we do?
Hill:
we must take our revenge in secret!
Todd:
should we attack back with
our own cyber-attack?
Leiter:
Chuck we live a cyber-glass house!
Todd:
is cyber-war unethical?
Chertoff:
no it's awesome!
Todd:
okay
Chertoff:
we should send in a
covert team to kill Kim Jong-un
Todd:
like Seal Team Six
Chertoff:
they'd never get far –
they would need a deep cover
Todd:
like maybe a couple of
athletes or entertainers
Chertoff:
right – then they sneak
out and assassinate him
Todd:
we could make a movie about it
Chertoff:
right – we could call it 'Getting Kim'
or 'A
Movie About Two Bumbling Guys
Who Kill
The Leader of North Korea'
Todd:
problem solved
Chertoff:
Obama claims he got this
great
climate deal with China just to
save
the planet and here Americans
can't
see the new Seth Rogen comedy
– was
it really worth it??
Hill:
China is fed up with North Korea
and
and is totally sick of their shit
Todd:
interesting
[
break ]
Todd:
omg Obama is going to
win
the Spanish-American war
Todd:
Cuban history began in 1959
when
the U.S. welcomed Fidel Castro
Todd:
here is Castro on Meet The Press
[
plays black and white tape ]
Castro:
I see Nixon beating Kennedy
– also
go Buffalo Bills!
Todd:
then JFK invaded with an
army
of pigs alienating Cuban-Americans
for
a generation
Todd:
then the world was nearly destroyed
in
a global thermonuclear war but at the
last
minute Matthew Broderick stopped it
Todd:
then Castro sent us all his criminals
creating
a generation of Florida politicians
Todd:
then Congress passed the embargo
and
America was divided by Elian Gonzalez
and
Republicans hated jack-booted government thugs
Todd:
then in 2008 candidate Obama
observed
the embargo has failed
[
break [
Todd:
good morning Marco
Rubio:
hi Todd
Rubio:
did the embargo work?
Rubio:
that's not the point
Todd:
it's not?
Rubio:
no the point is freedom
Todd:
so you admit the embargo failed?
Rubio:
the point of the embargo
was
not to work – it was leverage
to
get democracy and freedom in Cuba
Todd:
but the U.S. has normal relations
with China and Vietnam
Rubio:
exactly - we have trade with China
and
they have no free internet now
Todd:
so as President you would
have
an embargo with China?
Rubio:
don't be silly – where would Wal-Mart
get
all their cheap goods?
Todd:
I need 50 socks for $5
Rubio:
Obama has betrayed us all!
Todd:
you say Obama is soft on
left-wing dictators
Rubio:
that's right
Todd:
but he just increased sanctions
on
Venezuela so that is isn't true
Rubio:
exactly – Obama is a hypocrite too!
Todd:
Rand Paul called you an isolationist
Rubio:
he's objectively pro-Obama
Todd:
I see
Rubio:
look I just want Cuba to be from
an
autocratic nutty leader and free and
fair
elections and if it works there we
might
even try it in Florida
Todd:
would run against Jeb Bush?
Rubio:
yes because he's kind of a doofus
Todd:
thanks for coming
[
break ]
Todd:
in polls only Mitt Romney
does
better than Jeb Bush
Todd:
but Rand Paul pulls in
moderates
and tea partiers
Todd:
meanwhile Hillary is polling in at 80%
but
if she doesn't run Elizabeth Warren
does
well with the same group that
supported
Paul Tsongas and
Gary Hart and Bill Bradley
Audience:
um okay
Todd:
Jeb Bush is running –
Sarah
you're from BushWorld –
that
must be kind of exciting and terrifying
Fagen:
there was huge cheer in the room
when
Jeb said 'I will run and start four wars'!
Todd:
Nolte you're a big wingnut
- what do you think?
Nolte:
Jeb pissed off the base and
that
didn't work for McCain or Mittens
Fagen:
Jeb was a tea partier
before
there was a tea party –
I
swear he's really crazy!
Richardson:
he could do well because
he's
got a Hispanic wife
Todd:
he speaks better Spanish than Hillary
Fagen:
and better English than George
Richardson:
Cuba should release
their
political prisoners
Matthews:
Peggy Noonan supports
this
Cuba deal so I do too
Todd:
are we going to have another
Bush – Clinton race?
Fagen:
probably
Todd:
is it un-American to have
family dynasties?
Matthews:
who else can the GOP nominate
– at
least the Democrats have Elizabeth
Warren
waiting in the wings
Nolte:
Scott Walker can unite the party
– he's
an asshole from a swing state
Todd:
interesting
Nolte:
Common Core will sink Jeb Bush
Todd:
omg Obama called on only
female reporters!
Fagen:
The Bush White House had
more
women than Obama!
Todd:
and that's another
episode
of Meet The Press
