Richard Dubin (D-IL)
Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI)
Marc Morial - National Urban League
Gregory: Dick what’s up with Afghanistan
Durbin: Afghanistan is a costly nightmare and
we must get the hell out of there
Gregory: it has gone on a bit long
Durbin: it’s crazy
Gregory: you want to leave by July
Durbin: well why the hell not
Gregory: will there be government shutdown?
Durbin: Poor Boehner - he’s trapped between the weirdos and the corrupt in his party
Gregory: Democrats will be mad at you if you
don’t fund Planned Parenthood
Durbin: things like that proves the GOP doesn’t
care about the debt - it’s about ideology
Gregory: so would you vote for that?
Durbin: I’m not going to vote for cutting
Planned Parenthod or an EPA shutdown
Gregory: Chuck Schumer said Boehner is in
a box and that tea party is extreme
Durbin: well they are
Gregory: are you going to win the message battle?
Durbin: these cuts would put America in Jeopardy
Audience: I’ll take Failed Government for $1,000
Gregory: forget the substance - let’s talk about politics and framing the debate
Durbin: Sorry I know you hate substance
Gregory: Jobs are being created but Obama
must be a bad President isn’t he?
Durbin: hey tell it to the House Republicans Fluffy
Gregory: how about a voucher program
Durbin: everything must be on the table - including raising taxes on the rich and Pentagon cuts
Gregory: oh shit
Gregory: Obama wants to apply steady gentle pressure on Qadaffi
Durbin: sounds good to me - Obama got support from the Arab League, the U.N., and the Egyptian
Bronx Zoo cobra
Gregory: Obama declared “mission accomplished”!
Durbin: oh Fluffy you are hilariously deranged by Obama aren’t you
Gregory: Fred Hiatt wants Obama to kill Qadaffi
Durbin: we’ve taken his money, his land and his
Gregory: would you like to be head of the DNC?
Durbin: good god
[ break ]
Gregory: Congressman you were in the FBI
which makes you the bad-ass of the House
Rogers: the CIA is in Libya to gather facts and if it comes up to kick a little ass
Gregory: you don’t want to give the rebels weapons
Rogers: I support the no-fly zone but we don’t know who the rebels are - they could be liberals!
Gregory: are they all al-qaeda?
Rogers: not necessarily - there are 140 tribes
Gregory: good lord - I’d better update my bracket
Gregory: what about using Arab special forces?
Rogers: you don’t know what special forces
are do you?
Rogers: the rebels are getting more organized - they’re all on LinkedIn and Foursquare
Gregory: the Wall Street Journal wants us to
Rogers: that’s very nice
Gregory: how do we get him out?
Rogers: use carrot and stick - offer defectors a choice of a million dollars or a war crimes trial
Gregory: interesting dilemma
Rogers: Obama is using a smart strategy actually
Gregory: I reject that possibility
Rogers: I can tell
Gregory: the Côte d'Ivoire shows Obama is
not a good President
Rogers: silly man
Gregory: Obama admitted that it is not in our interest
Rogers: now you’re just lying
Gregory: so why intervene in Libya?
Rogers: Qadaffi has weapons of mass destruction which could threaten discos around the world
Gregory: should Americans burn Korans or not
Rogers: I would say not
Gregory: that’s a bold statement
Gregory: Fred Hiatt is worried Iran will take over the middle east because Obama is a wimp
Rogers: Iran has no right to meddle in other countries in the middle east
Gregory: of course
Rogers: liberty is on the march
Gregory: who should be the next head of the FBI?
Rogers: someone who understands the new FBI culture - crackin terror skulls!
[ break ]
Gregory: Mike take me behind the political curtain
Murphy: this budget debate is a sideshow - it’s
Gregory: Obama is lazy!
Dionne: Democrats have compromised by cutting
a mere $33 billion
Goodwin: people don’t want a shutdown and will blame the side that seems more extreme
Gregory: My hero Paul Ryan will finally deal with entitlements
Morial: fuck him and fuck you too
Murphy: Democrats are demagogues but they will run on raising taxes which could actually work
Gregory: Obama promised to cut imports of oil -
tell me he was lying
Yergin: he wasn’t
Gregory: I love oil Dan - can we drill more?
Yergin: yes in North Dakota
Gregory: I meant in an actual state
Yergin: well then California
Gregory: Dan why is oil so expensive?
Yergin: because Yemen has a 1,000 mile border with Saudi Arabia
Goodwin: Americans today are selfish, short-sighted and fucking nuts
Gregory: do we need Hitler to wake us up?
Dionne: we’re already in 3 wars!
Murphy: Liberals have faith in the power of the sun - it’s a destructive nuclear fireball in the sky!
Gregory: we have an Obama Doctrine!
Obama: Leadership is not being a lone cowboy -
true leadership creates opportunities for others step forward and take some responsibility for collective problems
Gregory: why does Obama hate America as an indispensable nation?
Goodwin: he says we can lead by starting a process and create broad coalitions
Gregory: but the Cote D’Ivoire!!
Morial: Obama actually brilliantly created a large coalition and all Fluffy can do is whine about it
Gregory: Did Obama subvert the Powell Doctrine?
Yergin: I noticed Obama even got France on board
Gregory: yes but unlike Iraq Libya has oil
Murphy: I love gun boat diplomacy
Dionne: Obama is anti-doctrine
Gregory: he is inscrutable
Gregory: ivory coast!
Dionne: just because you can’t save lives everywhere doesn’t mean you should not
act to save lives somewhere
Gregory: unemployment is high
Morial: the worst thing we could do is cut spending which is why Paul Ryan is doing it
Gregory: is Obama winning Ronald Regan’s ‘Morning in America’ argument?
Murphy: Perception matters most
Gregory: It’s all there is
Gregory: Reince Preibus says if you look beyond the numbers Obama is a Kenyan who won’t cut the debt and deficit
Goodwin: I don’t see that as winning argument
Gregory: non-whites are growing!
Murphy: It’s a problem for Republicans who have a wee perception problem with minorities, immigrants, women and sane people
Dionne: who will be the Republican’s Dukakis?
Morial: actually there are many smart Republicans - they’re all waiting to run in 2016
Goodwin: I’m a hopeless dreamer -
I root for progressives and the Red Sox
Gregory: and that’s Meet the Press