Meet The Press – June 1, 2014
Chuck Hagel (Sec. of Defense)
Rep. Adam Kinzinger
Fmr. Rep. Jane Harman
Fmr. Speaker Newt Gingrich
Gregory: wow a U.S. soldier was
released from captivity from the
Taliban after 5 years
Miklaszewski: he was used
for propaganda purposes
Miklaszewski: but the U.S. felt
they had to get him out before
the Afghan war ended
Gregory: no spoilers!
Miklaszewski: sorry Dave
Gregory: good morning Chuck
Hagel: hi David
Gregory: how is Bergdahl's health?
Hagel: well he was a POW of
the Taliban for five years
so it's not great
Gregory: that's understandable
Hagel: although he is walking and talking
Gregory: how did the negotiations get done?
Hagel: I want to thank the Amir of Qatar
Gregory: well go ahead
Hagel: I can't say anything else
Gregory: does this show the
Taliban can help run Afghanistan?
Hagel: it might and it could
Gregory: can you be less specific?
Hagel: this could be a new
opening to the Taliban
Gregory: Republicans are mad
they were not consulted before these
Taliban were released from Gitmo
Hagel: look there was no time –
we had to save Bergdahl –
we had the opportunity and we took it
Gregory: also Rep. Rogers says
this deal will encourage terrorists
to take Americans hostage
Hagel: we didn't negotiate with terrorists
– Bergdahl was a prisoner of war
and this was normal
Gregory: but these detainees
Hagel: Gitmo needs to be closed anyway
Gregory: but some say
we're rewarding terrorists
Hagel: look Obama drones
a terrorist every other day
Gregory: more on weekends
Hagel: we find and hunt terrorists!
Gregory: did Bergdahl desert his post?
Hagel: we're focused on helping
him re-integrate into society
and reunite him with his family
Gregory: but he won't speak
English like a real American!
Hagel: well he hasn't spoken
English in 5 years
Gregory: but his dad says he
can't communicate in English
Hagel: neither can Sarah Palin
and she was almost Vice President
Gregory: I'm suspicious of this POW
– I've seen Homeland you know
Hagel: he's been through hell!
Gregory: was he tortured?
Hagel: we can figure that out later
Gregory: how do you fix Veterans Affairs?
Hagel: we owe Shinseki a debt
of gratitude for his service
Gregory: fine but 22,000 troops are
coming home from Afghanistan
and they're screwed
Hagel: at the Pentagon we
work very closely with the VA
Gregory: well isn't that innovative
Hagel: don't get snippy Fluffy
Gregory: thanks for coming Chuckles
[ break ]
Gregory: aren't these released
Leiter: yeah they fought
against America and America won
Gregory: so is it safe to release them?
Leiter: yes it is because
we are leaving Afghanistan
Gregory: is everybody in
Gitmo a bargaining chip?
Leiter: the current exchange rate is
five Gitmo detainees equals one American
Gregory: so maybe we trade prisoners
for something valuable like oil or gold
or bootleg DVDs of Game of Throne
Leiter: I hope not – those dudes terrify me
Leiter: they really really hate America
Gregory: why is that
Leiter: cause they've been
trapped in Gitmo for years
Gregory: that makes sense
[ break ]
Gregory: Adam what is
your reaction to this deal?
Kinzinger: welcome home Bowe! –
although you are probably a traitor
Gregory: I see
Kinzinger: I am disappointed and
shocked by this deal I welcome
and disapprove of
Gregory: he has difficulty speaking
English which means he is anti-American
Reickoff: I am just glad we got our man back
Gregory: what about the VA?
Rieckhoff: this is a defining moment
for America – its to step up for our Veterans
Gregory: how did Shinseki not know?
Kinzinger: a good leader would know
Kinzinger: I like Shinseki very
much but he's also terrible
Kinzinger: I want to see people fired!
Gregory: so do I besides the ones already fired
Gregory: Paul I've heard care is
good it just takes too long
Rieckhoff: it is good but the delays
have been going on for decades
Gregory: reform is taking long
Rieckhoff: I mean one guy
has been waiting decades for care
Gregory: Adam I know you want
people fired but are Republicans
in Congress willing to spend the
money to fix the VA?
Kinzinger: the answer is not
just to spend money –
it's to get better outcomes
Gregory: so is that a yes or no?
Kinzinger: the answer isn't to
throw more money at the problem!
Gregory: of course
[ break ]
Tibbles: people are angry
here near Fort Bragg
Vet's Wife: Shinseki isn't the problem
– the VA is understaffed
Green Beret: putting bonuses
ahead of veterans is criminal
Green Beret: our foreign policy
is weak and ambiguous and our
enemies take advantage of it
Vet's Wife: the U.S. can't police the world
Tibbles: here they say the VA needs
more than a new figurehead –
it need to be completely fixed
Gregory: when we come back – Benghazi!
[ break ]
Gregory: welcome panel –
let's talk about Ed Snowden!!
Todd: we have an exclusive poll
that shows most people don't like
Snowden but young people do kind of like him
Todd: also the hashtag #patriot
beat the hashtag #traitor on twitter!
Gregory: well that settles it
Todd: everyone says he should
come home but he says he
could never get a fair trial
Gregory: America is entrenched
on the great traitor or patriot debate!
Todd: yes but there is a third
group that thinks the whole
debate is really stupid
Gregory: Newt Gingrich some
people like the fact that we're
talking about surveillance but
don't think one guy should have
the right to take and disclose
whichever secrets he wants
Gingrich: visit the 9/11 museum!
this was treason and he's a traitor!
Gingrich: he aided and abetted the enemy!
Gregory: but we didn't we need to
have real debate about surveillance?
Harman: Congress had a debate
when we amended FISA
Todd: seven years later!
Harman: well we did
Gregory: is he a traitor Jane?
Harman: I wouldn't call him a traitor
but you can't take those documents
Foroohar: both sides have been evasive
Todd: the young kids love the
idea of one person taking the
law into their own hands –
Snowden is like a whistleblower startup
Gregory: Chuck Hagel says Snowden
damaged national security
Hagel: I assure you there
is plenty of evidence
Gingrich: fuck those millennials –
when we're attacked and their
precious smartphones are
under rubble they won't care
about spying – they'll want revenge
Gregory: go on Newt!
Gingrich: this is is a big deal –
it cripples our capacity to fight
the bad guys and murderers
Gregory: what is the
future for Snowden?
Harman: he should cut a deal and
serve prison time so no other
young person ever does the same thing
Gregory: Hillary Clinton says
she will not participate in politicizing Benghazi
Todd: she's getting out in front
of Benghazi so it will be old news by 2016
Foroohar: the key question of Benghazi
is why was Susan Rice on
Meet The Press instead of her
Gingrich: the big issue of 2016
will be west African terrorism
Harman: there's no there there
Gregory: what is America's responsibility
in the wake of its many failed wars?
Todd: Benghazi was a dangerous
place because of the overall Libya policy
Gregory: omg next week is the 70th
Anniversary of D-Day
Brokaw: in WWII everybody fought –
even Clark Gable and Jimmy Stewart
flew jets and Chaplin mocked Hitler
Brokaw: the army had great film
directors like John Ford and John Huston
Frank Capra and William Wyler
and George Stevens!
George Stevens Jr: my dad saw
'Triumph of the Will' and the
next day he joined the army
Brokaw: that's so cool
Stevens: then I was looking
his old stuff and found color
footage of D-Day – it was amazing
Brokaw: there is even color film of Dachau
– those swastikas really pop
Expert: we see those who fought
in WWII as larger than life but
they were ordinary people
who became larger than life
Gregory: ironically with all this
great war nostalgia the President
is talking about not having so
many wars which is sad
Brokaw: well technically wars are bad
Gregory: but also awesome
Brokaw: yes D-Day is an example
of everyone pulling together which is great
Brokaw: we're just beginning to
understand that D-Day was really big
Gregory: thanks for coming Tom
[ break ]
Gregory: sure the massacre in
California was bad but will it really
have any impact on gun laws?
Bloomberg: we have too many
guns in the hands of criminals
kids and crazy people
Gregory: how do you keep the crazy
from having guns because the
NRA might agree with you here
Bloomberg: we need to empower
cops and courts to take guns from lunatics
Gregory: good luck with that
Bloomberg: and we need to
keep a national database of
people with mental problems
Gregory: some of my
best friends have mental problems
Bloomberg: and also keep guns
away from people with a record
of domestic violence
Gregory: you want to take on the NRA
Bloomberg: no – we just want
reasonable background checks
Gregory: but gun owners are
one-issue voters so you always lose
Bloomberg: that's where me
and my money come in
Gregory: thanks for coming
Gregory: did you know Maya Angelou
was a poet and author and
civil rights activist who won three grammys
[ break ]
Gregory: on twitter people are
asking what is the future of Gitmo?
Harman: we should close it and
stop giving terrorists ammunition
Gingrich: these people want
to defeat our civilization!
Farhoo: close it but don't trade with terrorists
Gregory: and that's another