Host:
Savannah Guthrie
Guests:
Jack
Lew – Sec. of Treasury
Sen.
Rand Paul (R-KY)
Rep.
Marcia Fudge (D-OH)
Steve
Inskeep – NPR
Rich
Lowry – National Review
Mike
Murphy
Guthrie:
Hi Jack – what's the threat level?
Lew:
America only has $30 billion in cash
– that's
dangerously low
Guthrie:
could you find more cash somewhere?
Lew:
we've gone through the White
House couch
cushions –
we only found six billion dollars
Guthrie:
could we default?
Lew:
we might
Guthrie:
is that bad
Lew:
Reagan said it would terrible
to
default on the US credit limit
Guthrie:
would it be calamitous?
Lew:
in 2011 even the threat of
default
roiled the markets
Guthrie:
you say there are all these
dire
consequences but you won't negotiate
Lew:
look in 2011 the Tea Party decided
they
could get what they want by threatening
to
wreck America – it's a terrible idea
Guthrie:
so you must give in to their demands
Lew:
it's Congress' job to pay our bills!
Guthrie:
why should Republicans
give up their leverage?
Lew:
it's not a favor to Obama to
pay
the bills Congress ran up
Guthrie:
why won't Obama come to the table?
Lew:
because he won't give in to
their insane demands
Guthrie:
the health care websites are down
Lew:
because it's so popular
Guthrie:
you should have planned better
Lew:
sure – but it only proves how
necessary
Obamacare is
Guthrie:
thanks Jack
[
break ]
Guthrie:
Rand you say don't
want
the shut down
Paul:
I hate it - I really do
Guthrie:
if you want to end the
shut
down so much why not
pass
a clean budget bill?
Paul:
we've passed clean bills all week long
Guthrie:
no you haven't
Paul:
we passed lots of them!
Guthrie:
that's piecemeal
Paul:
no it's not
Guthrie:
yes it is
Paul:
ok it is - but this is historically
how
it's done
Guthrie:
that isn't true either
Paul:
this is all Harry Reid's fault
Guthrie:
why did you shut the government
down
over Obamacare?
Paul:
we didn't want to shut the
government
down – it just happened because
we
insisted on Obamacare
Guthrie:
that's silly
Paul:
Obama wants 100% of what he wants
Guthrie:
he wants to the law
to stay the way it is
Paul:
we have the power
of
funding – its our right
Guthrie:
why not use the normal
legislative
process?
Paul:
we've been offering lots of
compromises
on Obamacare
Guthrie:
what is your compromise?
Rand:
Obama gives up something
while
we give up nothing
Guthrie:
which parts of Obamacare
do you like?
Paul:
none of it
Guthrie:
ok
Paul:
I was elected to fight Obamacare
Guthrie:
Obamacare is a failure but
you
shut down the government and
that's
the big news story and
that makes me sad
Paul:
America is out of money
Guthrie:
no it isn't
Paul:
the big picture is America is bankrupt
Guthrie:
both sides are being petty
and
the American people are
disgusted with you
Paul:
we need to pass spending
bills
one at a time
Guthrie:
do you take any blame?
Paul:
the Senate are supposed
to
pass individual spending bills
Guthrie:
I'm worried this is hurting
the
Republican party
Paul:
this is bad for the President –
he
shut down the government
Guthrie:
are you serious
Paul:
the Democrats like the
government closed
because it
makes Republicans look bad
Guthrie:
so are you falling into his trap?
Paul:
America is out of money!
Guthrie:
will Republicans default?
Paul:
its irresponsible for the
President
to threat default
Guthrie:
um ok
Paul:
it's just like when Obama
closed
the WWII memorial
Guthrie:
you're completely cuckoo
Paul:
our credit was downgraded in
2011
because our debt is really high
Guthrie:
thanks for coming Rand
[
break ]
Guthrie:
people can't get Obamacare!
Obamacare
is terrible!
Costello:
the website crashed
Guthrie:
Republicans says it's so popular it
proves
no one likes Obamacare
Costello:
8 million people visited the site
– but
how many got insurance?
Guthrie:
a pox on all your houses!
Fudge:
we should not respond
to
a ransom to do our job
Guthrie:
voters don't agree with shutting
down
the government even if they
don't
like Obamacare
Murphy:
can we talk about the
Obamacare
website? [ laughs ]
Guthrie:
ha
Murphy:
I would not Congress'
popularity
is 5% which ten times
lower
than Obamacare
Guthrie:
interesting point
Lowry:
clearly the GOP is hostage
to some nuts but Democrats are
to blame for caving in to the nuts
Inskeep:
it's unfair to blame Republicans
for
the shut down – my friend
Grover
Norquist says Democrats
might
cave on the sequester
Guthrie:
isn't Obama wrong to
refuse to
negotiate the full faith
and credit of the U.S.?
Fudge:
no because it's not negotiable
Murphy:
it's Obama's job to save
America
from crazy conservatives
Lowry:
the Democrats want the NIH
defunded
because they hate sick people
Guthrie:
ha ha the Obamacare
website is down!
Inskeep:
the Republicans were right!
Guthrie:
ha ha loser Democrats
Inskeep:
dumb Obama!
Guthrie:
damn if only Republican had
let
Obamacare fail that would make me happy
Murphy:
it was a mistake to take
attention
away from Obama's failures
Lowry:
no one will sign up for the exchanges
– the
proof it all the traffic on the exchanges
Guthrie:
thanks for coming everyone
[
break ]
Guthrie:
didn't you fail on Syria?
Power:
this is first time Syria even agreed
to
give up chemical weapons
Guthrie:
didn't you fail on Syria by
not
arming the rebels in Syria?
Power:
no
Guthrie:
but if you had armed the
rebels
it might be a peaceful paradise now
Power:
some of those rebels al-qaeda
– and
those are the reliable ones
Guthrie:
Bibi says Obama is being
tricked
by those wily Persians
Power:
Obama is a pretty cagy
motherfucker
himself
Guthrie:
you called Hillary a monster
and
got booted off the campaign
Power:
I felt bad about that
Guthrie:
I heard you cried
Power:
I called her a rock star
Guthrie:
you are not writing about problems
– you
are in charge of these problems
Power:
turns out it's easier to be a
pundit
and activist than making decisions
Guthrie:
but you can't compromise
– you're
the agitator
Power:
I am the danger!
Guthrie:
has bureaucracy softened you
Power:
I hope so?
Guthrie:
oh noe
Power:
but it's not easy –
I'm
a loudmouth and Irish
Guthrie:
ha
[
break ]
Guthrie:
some say the name
Redskins
may offend some people
Obama:
if I owned the team
I
would think about changing it
Snyder:
I will never change the name!
Native
American: it's denigrating
Player:
I was proud to be called Redskins
Guthrie:
lightning round – Redskins!
Inskeep:
call them the Debt Ceilings
Murphy:
the Vikings offends norsemen
Lowry:
what about the Cowboys vs Redskins?
Fudge:
change the name!
Guthrie:
and that's another
episode
of Meet The Press
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