Host: Savannah Guthrie
Jack Lew – Sec. of Treasury
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)
Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-OH)
Steve Inskeep – NPR
Rich Lowry – National Review
Guthrie: Hi Jack – what's the threat level?
Lew: America only has $30 billion in cash
– that's dangerously low
Guthrie: could you find more cash somewhere?
Lew: we've gone through the White
House couch cushions –
we only found six billion dollars
Guthrie: could we default?
Lew: we might
Guthrie: is that bad
Lew: Reagan said it would terrible
to default on the US credit limit
Guthrie: would it be calamitous?
Lew: in 2011 even the threat of
default roiled the markets
Guthrie: you say there are all these
dire consequences but you won't negotiate
Lew: look in 2011 the Tea Party decided
they could get what they want by threatening
to wreck America – it's a terrible idea
Guthrie: so you must give in to their demands
Lew: it's Congress' job to pay our bills!
Guthrie: why should Republicans
give up their leverage?
Lew: it's not a favor to Obama to
pay the bills Congress ran up
Guthrie: why won't Obama come to the table?
Lew: because he won't give in to
their insane demands
Guthrie: the health care websites are down
Lew: because it's so popular
Guthrie: you should have planned better
Lew: sure – but it only proves how
necessary Obamacare is
Guthrie: thanks Jack
[ break ]
Guthrie: Rand you say don't
want the shut down
Paul: I hate it - I really do
Guthrie: if you want to end the
shut down so much why not
pass a clean budget bill?
Paul: we've passed clean bills all week long
Guthrie: no you haven't
Paul: we passed lots of them!
Guthrie: that's piecemeal
Paul: no it's not
Guthrie: yes it is
Paul: ok it is - but this is historically
how it's done
Guthrie: that isn't true either
Paul: this is all Harry Reid's fault
Guthrie: why did you shut the government
down over Obamacare?
Paul: we didn't want to shut the
government down – it just happened because
we insisted on Obamacare
Guthrie: that's silly
Paul: Obama wants 100% of what he wants
Guthrie: he wants to the law
to stay the way it is
Paul: we have the power
of funding – its our right
Guthrie: why not use the normal
Paul: we've been offering lots of
compromises on Obamacare
Guthrie: what is your compromise?
Rand: Obama gives up something
while we give up nothing
Guthrie: which parts of Obamacare
do you like?
Paul: none of it
Paul: I was elected to fight Obamacare
Guthrie: Obamacare is a failure but
you shut down the government and
that's the big news story and
that makes me sad
Paul: America is out of money
Guthrie: no it isn't
Paul: the big picture is America is bankrupt
Guthrie: both sides are being petty
and the American people are
disgusted with you
Paul: we need to pass spending
bills one at a time
Guthrie: do you take any blame?
Paul: the Senate are supposed
to pass individual spending bills
Guthrie: I'm worried this is hurting
the Republican party
Paul: this is bad for the President –
he shut down the government
Guthrie: are you serious
Paul: the Democrats like the
government closed because it
makes Republicans look bad
Guthrie: so are you falling into his trap?
Paul: America is out of money!
Guthrie: will Republicans default?
Paul: its irresponsible for the
President to threat default
Guthrie: um ok
Paul: it's just like when Obama
closed the WWII memorial
Guthrie: you're completely cuckoo
Paul: our credit was downgraded in
2011 because our debt is really high
Guthrie: thanks for coming Rand
[ break ]
Guthrie: people can't get Obamacare!
Obamacare is terrible!
Costello: the website crashed
Guthrie: Republicans says it's so popular it
proves no one likes Obamacare
Costello: 8 million people visited the site
– but how many got insurance?
Guthrie: a pox on all your houses!
Fudge: we should not respond
to a ransom to do our job
Guthrie: voters don't agree with shutting
down the government even if they
don't like Obamacare
Murphy: can we talk about the
Obamacare website? [ laughs ]
Murphy: I would not Congress'
popularity is 5% which ten times
lower than Obamacare
Guthrie: interesting point
Lowry: clearly the GOP is hostage
to some nuts but Democrats are
to blame for caving in to the nuts
Inskeep: it's unfair to blame Republicans
for the shut down – my friend
Grover Norquist says Democrats
might cave on the sequester
Guthrie: isn't Obama wrong to
refuse to negotiate the full faith
and credit of the U.S.?
Fudge: no because it's not negotiable
Murphy: it's Obama's job to save
America from crazy conservatives
Lowry: the Democrats want the NIH
defunded because they hate sick people
Guthrie: ha ha the Obamacare
website is down!
Inskeep: the Republicans were right!
Guthrie: ha ha loser Democrats
Inskeep: dumb Obama!
Guthrie: damn if only Republican had
let Obamacare fail that would make me happy
Murphy: it was a mistake to take
attention away from Obama's failures
Lowry: no one will sign up for the exchanges
– the proof it all the traffic on the exchanges
Guthrie: thanks for coming everyone
[ break ]
Guthrie: didn't you fail on Syria?
Power: this is first time Syria even agreed
to give up chemical weapons
Guthrie: didn't you fail on Syria by
not arming the rebels in Syria?
Guthrie: but if you had armed the
rebels it might be a peaceful paradise now
Power: some of those rebels al-qaeda
– and those are the reliable ones
Guthrie: Bibi says Obama is being
tricked by those wily Persians
Power: Obama is a pretty cagy
Guthrie: you called Hillary a monster
and got booted off the campaign
Power: I felt bad about that
Guthrie: I heard you cried
Power: I called her a rock star
Guthrie: you are not writing about problems
– you are in charge of these problems
Power: turns out it's easier to be a
pundit and activist than making decisions
Guthrie: but you can't compromise
– you're the agitator
Power: I am the danger!
Guthrie: has bureaucracy softened you
Power: I hope so?
Guthrie: oh noe
Power: but it's not easy –
I'm a loudmouth and Irish
[ break ]
Guthrie: some say the name
Redskins may offend some people
Obama: if I owned the team
I would think about changing it
Snyder: I will never change the name!
Native American: it's denigrating
Player: I was proud to be called Redskins
Guthrie: lightning round – Redskins!
Inskeep: call them the Debt Ceilings
Murphy: the Vikings offends norsemen
Lowry: what about the Cowboys vs Redskins?
Fudge: change the name!
Guthrie: and that's another