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Democratic Presidential Debate
November 15, 2007
Las Vegas Nevada
UNLV
Moderators:
Wolf Blizter
John Roberts
Campbell Brown
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Wolf Blizter: let's introduce the candidates......
Senator John Edwards!
"damm i'm cute"
Senator Chris Dodd!
"how come no one like me?"
Senator Barack Obama!!
"damm i'm smokin' hot"
Senator Hillary Clinton
"should i shake hands? yes-wait-maybe not - okay i will"
Dennis Kucinich!!
"is that a ufo? oh no it's joe biden's head"
Joe Biden!!
"fire burns!!"
Bill Richardson!!
"yo soy runnning for veece president"
hi i'm wolf blitzer if a candidate strays from the topic i will gently whip them with my beard-brush
Campbell Brown: first question Hillary are you a Clintonian parsing bitch
Hillary: ahm wearing my asbestos pantsuit bitch
Brown: sexy
Hillary: let me say this about my opponents - fuck all of them
Leslie: Obama do you think hillary is a lying bitch
Obama: she is the biggest liar ever - look at driver's licenses or social security or the size and shape of bill's penis where's the straight talk???
Leslie: billary how big is it?
Hillary: he's not honest either his fake health care plan doesn't cover everyone whereas my fake health care plan does
Leslie: touche!
Obama: she promises everything and i don't - who's dishonest now?
Hillary: let's be honest Barack covers kids but what about tweens where's the love for Hannah Montana oh noes
Protestor: Biofuels bitches!!!
Obama: holy crap look what happened to Martin Luther King and Malcolm X should I be ducking right now
Edwards: Hillary hates social secuity, she voted for Bush's war, and is corrupt because she loves lobbyists
Hillary: can i talk
Leslie: by all means darling
Hillary: i don't mind attacks on my but when you go after my kitty-cat that's where i draw the line
Leslie: she's got you there pretty boy
Edwards: oh noes
Leslie: Franken-Biden you talk
Biden: Drugs!! Bad!!
Wolf: what else?
Biden: who among us is going to end the war and pick up the phone and order pakistani food in the District? In the 1970's i was ordering indian food while Edwards was still a kid!!
Wolf: calm down everyone but Kucinich will get to talk tonite
John Roberts: Edwards you are a big flip flopper
Edwards: yeah but i bend with the political winds and she calculates all her answers
Roberts: interesting
Edwards: you had a troll on CNN for the last debate
Roberts: well that's not a very nice thing to say about Lou Dobbs
Kucinich: as an elf i agree
Wolfie: Senator Dodd why is John Edwards so pretty and yet so angry?
Dodd: as the only white haired white man i can say people want someone as president who looks like a movie-style president and i am that man!!!
[audience: yay!!]
Richardson: my name is bill richardson and i am running for hillary clinton's vice president
Wolf: bold move
Richardson: give peas a chance
Wolf: i love them with cheese and butter and a knife
Richardson: that's what i'm saying dood
Leslie: will you all support the nominee whoever it is??
Biden: no and i'm not joking
Kucinich: no they're all warmongers
Brown: please hate on illegal immigrants
Obama: yes it's true George Bush is a terrible president Cambell Brown and yes it's easy to blame illegal immigrants for Bush's economy isn't it convenient how that works
Brown: so sad
Obama: we have to start tasing employers who hire illegals
Brown: yay
Leslie: let me ask you about the biggest issue in America: driver's licenses for illegals yes or no
Obama: oh my god Wolf you are THE dumbest motherfucker i have ever met
Leslie: yes or no!?!
Obama: maybe yes maybe no
Lesie: yes or no this is the most important issue ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edwards: no - but let be more thorough
Leslie: no shut up
Dodd: no!
Leslie: thank you
Obama: can i say yes now
Leslie: huh?
Hillary: NO!
Kucinich: there is no such thing as an illegal person
Leslie: you scare me little man
Kucinich: fuck you wolfie you brainless twit
Richardson: hell i already gave licenses to illegal immmigrants
Wolfie: well but all your relatives are probably illegal immigrants
Richardson: this is complex-
Wolf: shut up pedro
Roberts: let's talk about a non-federal issue like firing teachers who teach students who don't do well on our fake tests
Dodd: i like kids and i hate bush
audience: yay!
Dodd: i started the congressional Children's Caucus
audience: did you ever wonder why Mark Foley attended every week
Leslie: do u hate unions?
Kucinich: no
Richardson: we need to have kindergarten last all day
audience: put mark foley on that too
Leslie: hillary what if there is a teacher who shows up for work every day and act like a total moron
Clinton: i'm looking at someone like that right now Wolfie
Wolf: huh
Biden: my wife proved she was a great teacher by leaving teaching to get two master's degrees
Wolf: yay
Biden: it's not like teachers are getting rich you know
Wolf: fucking filthy teat-sucking teachers
Biden: pay them more mone-
Wolf: shut up baldy
Brown: Biden you spoke to Musharraf last week for god's sake why???
Biden: Brown you have maintained CNN's perfect record of total shitheadedness tonight
Brown: thanks dude
Biden: in fact i don't like Pervez and i have a detailed Pakistan plan and no one else does
Brown: you bore me smart-person
Wolf: omg Pakistan has nukes and the taliban and really strong curries!!!
Richardson: we backed Musharraf even though he hates democracy guess what happened
Wolf: yeah a woman is running there oh noes
Richardson: hell Osama is in Pakistan
Wolf: shut up chunky
Richardon: no - i'm talking now you beadred retard
Wolf: so what you are saying is that you hate America and want this country to be nuked
Edwards: this all proves that Bush is really really stupid
Wolf: Obama do you want to see your muslim friends to nuke America
Obama: holy shit you are the dumbest bastard i have ever met
Blizter: Dodd do you hate America?
Dodd: jesus sugar tits Wolf Blitzer were you deprived of oxygen when you were born i have houseplants who are smarter than you
Hillary: i agree with Chris my god did the Republican party put some kind of implant in your tiny brain leslie???
Wolf: i have no memory of that
Hillary: obviously Bush has failed and now Pakistan is a total failure and very very dangerous
Kucinich: can i talk about Pakistan?
Wolf: no there are no UFOs there
Roberts: Iraq is a wonderful success why do you all hate America?
Richardson: the iraq war has caused lots of mental trauma
Roberts: well watching CNN will do that
Richardson: true but what about the rich Arab states
Kucinich: i voted against funding the war and the Dems in Congress should cut off the funding - period
Robert: america-hater
Kucinich: oh and by the way the problems in Pakistan are because of our assholiness all over the world
Obama: jesus christ people are on their 4th tour of duty and more americans are dead in Iraq and Afghanistan doesn't mean we should do cartwheels Leslie W. Stupid
Brown: China is evil and isn't that the Democrats fault
Kucinich: yes of course look at Yucca Mountain
Brown: oh right
Kucinich: Hillary and John Edwards voted for free trade with China
Biden: ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
Edwards: we can't defeat Corporate Republicans and elect Corporate Democrats we must give the power to the people
Leslie: knowing what we know now should we all have voted for Ross Perot in 1992
Hillary: heh yeah then his daughter could have gotten married in the white house in safety
Leslie: was NAFTA a mistake
Hillary: yes - that's why i'm going to call for a time-out on trade
Leslie: what about instant replay
Hillary: that's another good idea
Dodd: suspend all trade with Peru and China!!
Obama: now hold on Peru is a little country
Dodd: well okay
Obama: we should send our own inspectors over there and review MNF every single year
Biden: we have power stop the chickens from sneaking into Delaware so lets do it or at least those freakin nuggets
Leslie: where should we put nuclear waste
Obama: this is the third time where you have said, 'assuming Democrats all suck and Republicans are good, who would you vote for?' and you should shut the fuck up
Wolf: okay okay
Obama: i mean it shithead
Leslie: okay don't hit me black man
Richardson: we need a Energy Revolution mandate!
Campbell Brown: you are playing the gender card bitch
Clinton: i am going to the first woman president and you can't stop me bitch
Brown: what's the boys club honey?
Clinton: campbell don't make smack you
Wolf: oooh cat fight!
Clinton: I’m very proud to be a woman
Wolf: is Hillary playing the gender card Edwards?
Edwards: she takes lobbying money
audience: booooooo
Edwards: fuck you all jerry tarkanian was a big cheater
Brown: do we want to invade Iran
Woman in Audience: should we have more war my son’s life is in danger dammit
Biden: no and hillary’s vote may take us to war with iran and if bush does that he should be impeached!
Hillary: there is no danger of people being deployed to iran but bush wants to go to war with iran which is dangerous
audience: oh ok
Edwards: I saw this movie once before and I don’t there to be a really crappy sequel
audience: yay
Obama: any idiot could see that resolution was an attempt at starting a war
Audience member: why is Blackwater getting rich wrecking our foreign policy
Richardson: no more mercenaries people should only kill for patriotism not money that just degrades it
Audience: applause!
Richardson: and a Heroes card when any veteran could use to go back in time before this shitty war started
Audience: woo-hoo!
Khan: I’m always being racially profiled it sucks
Edwards: that’s bad i pledge no more Gitmo or renditions or waterboarding when i'm president - the only torture which will be tolerated will be watching CNN debates
audience: yay!
Kucinich: you're all non-progressives unlike me!!
Wolf: ok that’s enough
Kucinich: impeach bush now!!
Wolf: shut up boat rocker they might hear you
Biden: no one loves me
Ambriz: buenvenidenos should be build a wall against brown people
Wolf: Bill you’re the only one here who counts who is against a big fence
Kucinich: that’s a fucking lie
Wolf: no you don’t matter dude
Richardson: you know Dennis i'm not actually in Congress
Dennis: you also can't win
Richardson: drugs and people are coming over but lets not demonize immigrants
Dodd: yo soy spanish speaker!
audience: yay!
Casino Cashier: my question is, do you want to double down?
Brown: good question
Cainso Gal: no really my question is do you support social security
Obama: bush keeps stealing Fica to pay for his stupid war
Wolf: Hillary what’s you plan
Clinton: I don’t have one
Obama: She's Hillary McRomney
Question: litmus test no overturning Rove Wade?
Dodd: damm right
Biden: I want a dog catcher who knows how to live!
Wolf: alma werfel?
Richardson: we need the Equalizer
Kucinich: we need a supreme court that conducts sessions on sex education
Obama: like Joe I would nominate someone with a lot of life experience
Wolf: how about joe biden then
Obama: you must be kidding he’s a been a senator since he was 17
Edwards: we need judges who are so unpopular they get death threats
Student: how do we unite America
Obama: hold a series of staff meetings
Hillary: I will go on a 4 year listening tour
Biden: people love me in Washington uniting America will be a snap
Richardson: I would get north korea to lean on Syria to persuade Israel to adjust the 1967 borders
Wolf: yes that will bring america together
Student: Hillary do you like liberal diamonds or Republican pearls
Hillary: heh give me both baby
Biden: diamonds -- pearls are for Republicans they go before swine
Host: that’s the end thanks everyone
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The COVENANT with Abraham and his DESCENDANTS is central to JUDAISM/CHRISTIANITY/ISLAM.
Please note this is not a competition between faiths but an attempt to decipher fact from fiction.
Genesis 21:14 Contemporary English version se below link
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=GENESIS%2021;&version=46;
Early the next morning Abraham gave Hagar an animal skin full of water and some bread. Then he put the boy on her shoulder and sent them away.
GENESIS 16:16
And Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram called the name of his son, whom Hagar bore, Ish’mael. Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ish’mael to Abram.
GENESIS 21:5
Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him.
At Genesis 22 Abraham had only 2 sons others came later. The Quran mentions that it was Ishmael that was sacrificed hence the reference in genesis 22:2 your only son can only mean someone has substituted Ishmael names for Isaac!!
BY DOING SOME KINDERGARTEN ARITHMATIC USING ARABIC NUMBERS (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10)
NOT ROMAN NUMERALS (I, II, III,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,IX,X) NB no concept of zero in roman numerals.
100 years old – 86 years old = 14 ADD 3 YEARS FOR ISSAC’S WEANING
THAT WOULD MAKE ISHMAEL 17 YEARS OLD IN GENESIS 21:14-21
BUT IT IS A DESCRIPTION OF AN INFANT.
Carefully read several times the above passage and then tell me the mental picture you get between the mother child interactions what is the age of the child. If the mental picture is that of a 17 year old child being carried on the shoulder of his mother, being physically placed in the bush, crying like a baby, mother having to give him water to drink, than the Islamic viewpoint is null and void. Why is there no verbal communications between mother and (17 YEAR OLD) child?
GENESIS: 21:14 - 21
So Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread and a skin of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, along with the (17 YEAR OLD) child, and sent her away. And she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-Sheba. When the water in the skin was gone, she cast the (17 YEAR OLD) child under one of the bushes. Then she went, and sat down over against him a good way off, about the distance of a bowshot; for she said, “Let me not look upon the death of the (17 YEAR OLD) child.” And as she sat over against him, the (17 YEAR OLD) child lifted up his voice and wept. And God heard the voice of the (17 YEAR OLD) lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven, and said to her, “What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not; for God has heard the voice of the (17 YEAR OLD) lad where he is. Arise, lift up the (17 YEAR OLD) lad, and hold him fast with your hand; for I will make him a great nation.” Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the skin with water, and gave the (17 YEAR OLD) lad a drink. And God was with the (17 YEAR OLD) lad, and he grew up; he lived in the wilderness, and became an expert with the bow. He lived in the wilderness of Paran; and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.
The age of Ishmael at this stage is crucial to the Abrahamic faiths. If he is 17 than the JUDEO/CHRISTIAN point of view about the Abrahamic covenant is correct. This has devastating theological consequences of unimaginable proportions.
This makes the conflict between Ishmael and Isaac and there descendants a work of fiction. I would strongly suggest it is clear cut case of racial discrimination and nothing to do with god almighty. The scribes have deliberately tried to make Isaac the only son and legitimate heir to the throne of Abraham??
Please can you rationally explain this anomaly?
I have asked many persons including my nephews and nieces - unbiased minds with no religious backgrounds but with reasonable command of the English language about this passage and they all agree that the child in the passage is an infant.
AS THE DESCRIPTION OF ISHMAEL IN GENESIS 21:14-21 IS THAT OF AN INFANT IT CAN BE ASSUMED SOMEONE HAS MOVED THIS PASSAGE FROM AN EARLIER PART OF SCRIPTURE!!! AND HAVE GOT THERE KNICKERS IN A TWIST.
For background info on the future religion of mankind see the following websites:
http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/Muhammad_Bible.HTM
(MUHAMMAD IN THE BIBLE)
http://bible.islamicweb.com/
http://www.islamicity.com/
http://www.islamonline.net/english/index.shtml
http://www.islamalways.com/
http://ifamericansknew.com/
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/MB_BQS/default.htm
(BIBLE, QURAN and SCIENCE)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ANTI-WAR
http://www.harunyahya.com/
(EVOLUTION DECEIPT)
http://www.barnabas.net/
http:/www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
HOLY QURAN CHAPTER 37 verses 101 - 122
101. So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear.
102. Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice: Now see what is thy view!" (The son) said: "O my father! Do as thou art commanded: thou will find me, if Allah so wills one practising Patience and Constancy!"
103. So when they had both submitted their wills (to Allah., and he had laid him prostrate on his forehead (for sacrifice),
104. We called out to him "O Abraham!
105. "Thou hast already fulfilled the vision!" - thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
106. For this was obviously a trial-
107. And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice:
108. And We left (this blessing) for him among generations (to come) in later times:
109. "Peace and salutation to Abraham!"
110. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
111. For he was one of our believing Servants.
112. And We gave him the good news of Isaac - a prophet,- one of the Righteous.
113. We blessed him and Isaac: but of their progeny are (some) that do right, and (some) that obviously do wrong, to their own souls.
114. Again (of old) We bestowed Our favour on Moses and Aaron,
115. And We delivered them and their people from (their) Great Calamity;
116. And We helped them, so they overcame (their troubles);
117. And We gave them the Book which helps to make things clear;
118. And We guided them to the Straight Way.
119. And We left (this blessing) for them among generations (to come) in later times:
120. "Peace and salutation to Moses and Aaron!"
121. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
122. For they were two of our believing Servants.
ISHMAEL IS THE FIRST BORN AND GOOD NEWS OF ISSAC DOES NOT APPEAR UNTIL AFTER THE SACRIFICE?????
Therefore the claim that god gave the land to Israel is destroyed without the need of any WMD’s.
HADITH
Volume 4, Book 55, Number 583:
Narrated Ibn Abbas:
The first lady to use a girdle was the mother of Ishmael. She used a girdle so that she might hide her tracks from Sarah. Abraham brought her and her son Ishmael while she was suckling him, to a place near the Ka'ba under a tree on the spot of Zam-zam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Mecca, nor was there any water So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. Ishmael's mother followed him saying, "O Abraham! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?" She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her Then she asked him, "Has Allah ordered you to do so?" He said, "Yes." She said, "Then He will not neglect us," and returned while Abraham proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniya where they could not see him, he faced the Ka'ba, and raising both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayers:
'O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Your Sacred House (Kaba at Mecca) in order, O our Lord, that they may offer prayer perfectly. So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allah) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks.' (14.37) Ishmael's mother went on suckling Ishmael and drinking from the water (she had).
When the water in the water-skin had all been used up, she became thirsty and her child also became thirsty. She started looking at him (i.e. Ishmael) tossing in agony; She left him, for she could not endure looking at him, and found that the mountain of Safa was the nearest mountain to her on that land. She stood on it and started looking at the valley keenly so that she might see somebody, but she could not see anybody. Then she descended from Safa and when she reached the valley, she tucked up her robe and ran in the valley like a person in distress and trouble, till she crossed the valley and reached the Marwa mountain where she stood and started looking, expecting to see somebody, but she could not see anybody. She repeated that (running between Safa and Marwa) seven times."
The Prophet said, "This is the source of the tradition of the walking of people between them (i.e. Safa and Marwa). When she reached the Marwa (for the last time) she heard a voice and she asked herself to be quiet and listened attentively. She heard the voice again and said, 'O, (whoever you may be)! You have made me hear your voice; have you got something to help me?" And behold! She saw an angel at the place of Zam-zam, digging the earth with his heel (or his wing), till water flowed from that place. She started to make something like a basin around it, using her hand in this way, and started filling her water-skin with water with her hands, and the water was flowing out after she had scooped some of it."
The Prophet added, "May Allah bestow Mercy on Ishmael's mother! Had she let the Zam-zam (flow without trying to control it) (or had she not scooped from that water) (to fill her water-skin), Zam-zam would have been a stream flowing on the surface of the earth." The Prophet further added, "Then she drank (water) and suckled her child. The angel said to her, 'Don't be afraid of being neglected, for this is the House of Allah which will be built by this boy and his father, and Allah never neglects His people.' The House (i.e. Kaba) at that time was on a high place resembling a hillock, and when torrents came, they flowed to its right and left. She lived in that way till some people from the tribe of Jurhum or a family from Jurhum passed by her and her child, as they (i.e. the Jurhum people) were coming through the way of Kada'. They landed in the lower part of Mecca where they saw a bird that had the habit of flying around water and not leaving it. They said, 'This bird must be flying around water, though we know that there is no water in this valley.' They sent one or two messengers who discovered the source of water, and returned to inform them of the water. So, they all came (towards the water)." The Prophet added, "Ishmael's mother was sitting near the water. They asked her, 'Do you allow us to stay with you?" She replied, 'Yes, but you will have no right to possess the water.' They agreed to that." The Prophet further said, "Ishmael's mother was pleased with the whole situation as she used to love to enjoy the company of the people. So, they settled there, and later on they sent for their families who came and settled with them so that some families became permanent residents there. The child (i.e. Ishmael) grew up and learnt Arabic from them and (his virtues) caused them to love and admire him as he grew up, and when he reached the age of puberty they made him marry a woman from amongst them.
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