Guests:
Marc
Morial - President of the
National
Urban League and
former
Mayor of New Orleans
Rep.
Marcia Fudge (D-OH) &
Chair
of the Congressional Black Caucus
Tavis
Smiley – PBS
Charles
Ogletree - Harvard Law School
Michael
Steele - former Chair of the RNC
Chuck Todd
Gov.
Rick Snyder (R-MI)
Fmr.
Gov. Jennifer Granholm (D-MI)
Gregory:
the President come out as a black man!
Fudge:
the President made it clear
that
Trayvon had rights not to
be
followed and killed
Obama:
Trayvon Martin could have
been
me and African-Americans have
a
history that doesn't go away
Gregory:
Tavis you said the
President's
comments were weak
Smiley:
his statements don't count
because
he was pushed to make
those
remarks and anyway Obama
lacks
moral leadership
Gregory:
I love it
Smiley:
Obama's failure to speak out
on
race is this is just like Bill Clinton
allowing
genocide in Rwanda
Gregory:
is Obama responsible for genocide?
Ogletree:
no
Gregory:
dammit
Ogletree:
he's not a black President –
he's
the President who happens to be black
Morial:
he started the process which
will
hopefully lead to real action
Steele:
I agree with Tavis -
it's
Obama's fault that we
don't
have gun control
Gregory:
nice
Morial:
the President can't
do
it all alone
Smiley:
he's weak! Weak I tell you!
Morial:
let me finish Tavis
Smiley:
Ogletree is wrong –
Obama
has tried to avoid
race
at all costs
Ogletree:
not true
Smiley:
Obama said only athletes
can
solve our racial problem!
Ogletree:
that's crap Tavis
Smiley:
screw you Harvard
Ogletree:
excuse me – he's pushed
health
care reform and gun control
Fudge:
the House is trying to
eliminate
food stamps!
Gregory:
Stand Your Ground laws
have
redefined the concept of self-defense
Steele:
those laws are probably
bad
but the federal government
should
mind its own business
Gregory:
good point
Steele:
Stand Your Ground was
not
used by the Zimmerman defense
Morial:
but it was used in the jury instruction
Smiley:
why hasn't the NRA argued
that
Trayvon should have carried
a
gun to defend himself from
George
Zimmerman?
Morial:
why wasn't George Zimmerman
arrested
after killing a child?
Gregory:
is that sill illegal in Florida?
Ogletree:
that's unclear Fluffy
Smiley:
the President said Friday
there
ain't going to be a civil rights case
Gregory:
The Washington Post's
Richard
Cohen asked who will be
brave
enough to admit we must assume
all
black men are criminals
Fudge:
police stop and frisk black kids
– no
wonder they get convicted more!
Smiley:
I want Obama to lead!
Morial:
we need economic opportunity
Gregory:
Obama said in 2008 we
are
not going to get past race easily
Ogletree:
President Obama put
Trayvon
Martin in American history
Smiley:
Obama must leads the
nation
in a moral conversation!
Gregory:
but conservative says race
had
nothing to do with Trayvon Martin case
Steele:
well that's stupid isn't it
[
break ]
Gregory:
Governor Snyder you said
in
2011 you not allow Detroit
declare
bankruptcy – what happened?
Snyder:
I changed my mind –
the
citizens of Detroit deserve better services
Gregory:
half the street lights don't work
Snyder:
it's a bit of a problem
Gregory:
clearly
Snyder:
I'm bullish on Detroit –
we
just need to get rid of the city government
Gregory:
you have some very lazy greedy retirees
Snyder:
shit's gettin' real
Gregory:
how will you tell these retirees to suck it
Snyder:
it's going to be ugly
Gregory:
that's true all over America –
I
hate these awful retired teachers
and
cops and firefighters
Gregory:
what about a federal bailout?
Snyder:
in the next month we will remove all blight
Gregory:
thanks for coming Rick
[
break ]
Gregory:
in 2012 Obama said 'we refuse
to
let Detroit go bankrupt' but
he
meant the auto industry
Granholm:
it's simple - Detroit lost
90%
of its manufacturing jobs
Gregory:
conservatives blame unions
and
blame you for boosting your state
when
you were governor
Granholm:
to be fair this is a
problem
all across America
Brooks:
San Francisco lost manufacturing
jobs and they're doing well
Morial:
true
Todd:
the problem is cronyism –
also
businesses failed too
Morial:
poor people don't get bailouts
– quel
surprise
Gregory:
laissez les bad temps roulez
Brooks:
Detroit is just like the fall of
the
Roman Empire - entrenched elites
engaged
in orgies and were overrun by goths
Gregory:
is American declining?
Brooks:
not if you're white and
college
educated – the problem is class
Morial:
we need to address that too
Gregory:
my mother is from Detroit
– thank
god she left
Granholm:
Germany is creating
middle-class
manufacturing jobs
Gregory:
white people say Obama
doesn't
care about race
Brooks:
yes but Obama's ability to see
both
sides comes from the fact that
he
has a white mother and Kenyan father
Gregory:
but conservatives say now
is
not the time to talk about white
people
killing unarmed black teenagers
Brooks:
well that's stupid
Morial:
this was deep in his consciousness
– but
he has addressed civil rights and
health
care and predatory lending
on race but people said that Obama is
too
cautious on every issue
Gregory:
true
Todd:
also Obama is an anthropologist
who
studies human beings from a distance
Gregory:
and a law professor who
poses
tough questions to us all
Todd:
also to Obama just winning the
Presidency
was a big statement
to
young African-Americans
Brooks:
he's also pushing immigration reform
– it's
about more than just black and white
Gregory:
Helen Thomas was a White House
reporter
pioneer who asked tough questions
Audience:
what an amazing concept
Gregory:
and that's another
episode
of Meet the Press
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