Sunday, December 21, 2014

Meet The Press – December 21, 2014


Guests:
Eric Adams - Brooklyn Borough President
David Boies – Lawyer for Sony
Kal Penn - actor
Chris Matthews
Bill Richardson - (D-NM)
Michael Chertoff – fmr Bush White House
Director of Homeland Security
Michael Leiter – Counter-terrorism official
Christopher Hill – fmr. Amb. to South Korea
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Sarah Fagan – fmr Bush WH political director
John Nolte – Breitbart News

Todd: holy shit two New York City
cops were shot while sitting in their car

Todd: the killer came from
Baltimore and hated cops

Todd: the union head says the
Mayor has blood on his hands

Adams: we need to come together to heal

Todd: I see

Adams: I was a cop for 22
years so I know hard it is

Todd: are protesters to 
blame for the murders?

Adams: not at all – the blame is 
on the murderer

Todd: you disappoint me

Adams: innocent people
should not die in America

Todd: c'mon say something
horribly controversial

Adams: no

Todd: how do you fix the trust issue
between Mayor and the cops

Adams: It doesn't need fixing -
cops just need to get up every
day and do their jobs

Todd: are you concerned that this
killing of two cops will stop reform?

Adams: no because this is a movement
we're not going to let one sick individual
stop us from improving relations between
police and the community

[ break ]

Todd: who could have guessed
Seth Rogan would start WWIII?

Obama: we can't let dictators dictate
which piece of recycled crap 
Hollywood pushes on us

Sony: we so did not cave!

McCain: grrrr!!!

Obama: the North Korea leaders
are a bunch of big babies

Rob Lowe: Sony is just like 
Neville Chamberlain!

Obama: Boston still ran the marathon !

Todd: David what's your take on Dear Hacker

Boies: look movie theaters got
very specific threats of violence

Todd: fair point

Boies: no one stood up for Sony 
when it counted

Todd: Obama says he would have
called the movie theaters personally
and told them to show the movie
and also be honest and just start
serving popcorn in buckets

Boies: this is a state sponsored 
attack on Americans!

Todd: wow!

Boies: if the NSA exposed someone's
e-mails the whole internet would
have been outraged

Todd: was this terrorism?

Boies: this was a state-sponsored
attack on privacy and people should
stop aiding and abetting it

Todd: could Sony be sued if a
movie theater was attacked?

Boies: maybe – but look these were real
threats and no one stepped up to defend
Sony when the threats were public

Todd: should the government pass
a law saying Sony can't be sued?

Boies: the FBI has been good but
the whole government needs to
get behind stopping these attacks

Todd: should the President
said Sony made a mistake?

Boies: it was good he said we can't
have state-sponsored attacks on Americans

Todd: okay

Boies: but he should have blasted
the attack earlier instead of blaming the victim

Todd: did Sony's decision to cancel
the movie bother your fellow actors?

Penn: look I feel bad for Sony but 
it sets a bad precedent

Todd: what else could they do?

Penn: they could it on pay-per-view 
if they wanted

Todd: is Sony getting what they deserve?

Penn: hey I made a movie about two
dudes in Gitmo and we mocked 
George W. Bush

Todd: you're a conservative
but you defended Sony

Nolte: it's not Sony's job to fight
terrorists – it's their job to make money

Todd: some banks make money
working with terrorists

Nolte: the government should shield
Sony from liability and then we can
all go see the movie

Matthews: Obama had to be Churchill!

Todd: go on Chris

Matthews: we have to be resilient!

Todd: yeah but there are still
active lawsuits from 9/11

Matthews: I get it – Sony should 
get double indemnity - ha!

Todd: who knew North Korea could do this?

Richardson: I sure didn't

Todd: was it terrorism?

Richardson: we need to lean on China

Todd: will this have a chilling effect
and will Hollywood start turning out
derivative crap and terrible remakes and
endless shitty sequels instead the wonderful
inspiring creative art they are known for?

Penn: it's possible Todd

Todd: why are you the only
one who is willing to speak out publicly

Penn: I dunno – why not speak out?

Todd: are actors scared?

Penn: no it's just hard to know else
there is to say – the hack is bad and
the movie should be released if possible

Todd: okay then

[ break ]

Leiter: if it took a Sony hack to get
action on cyber-security there's a silver lining

Todd: was this terrorism?

Chertoff: yes – it destroyed things 
and threatened violence in order 
to change behavior

Todd: what can we do?

Hill: North Korea has a third-world economy
but half of all North Koreans are 
employed as cyber-terrorists

Todd: so what do we do?

Hill: we must take our revenge in secret!

Todd: should we attack back with 
our own cyber-attack?

Leiter: Chuck we live a cyber-glass house!

Todd: is cyber-war unethical?

Chertoff: no it's awesome!

Todd: okay

Chertoff: we should send in a 
covert team to kill Kim Jong-un

Todd: like Seal Team Six

Chertoff: they'd never get far – 
they would need a deep cover

Todd: like maybe a couple of 
athletes or entertainers

Chertoff: right – then they sneak 
out and assassinate him

Todd: we could make a movie about it

Chertoff: right – we could call it 'Getting Kim' 
or 'A Movie About Two Bumbling Guys 
Who Kill The Leader of North Korea'

Todd: problem solved

Chertoff: Obama claims he got this
great climate deal with China just to
save the planet and here Americans
can't see the new Seth Rogen comedy
was it really worth it??

Hill: China is fed up with North Korea
and and is totally sick of their shit

Todd: interesting

[ break ]

Todd: omg Obama is going to
win the Spanish-American war

Todd: Cuban history began in 1959
when the U.S. welcomed Fidel Castro

Todd: here is Castro on Meet The Press

[ plays black and white tape ]

Castro: I see Nixon beating Kennedy
also go Buffalo Bills!

Todd: then JFK invaded with an
army of pigs alienating Cuban-Americans
for a generation

Todd: then the world was nearly destroyed
in a global thermonuclear war but at the
last minute Matthew Broderick stopped it

Todd: then Castro sent us all his criminals
creating a generation of Florida politicians

Todd: then Congress passed the embargo
and America was divided by Elian Gonzalez
and Republicans hated jack-booted government thugs

Todd: then in 2008 candidate Obama
observed the embargo has failed

[ break [

Todd: good morning Marco

Rubio: hi Todd

Rubio: did the embargo work?

Rubio: that's not the point

Todd: it's not?

Rubio: no the point is freedom

Todd: so you admit the embargo failed?

Rubio: the point of the embargo
was not to work – it was leverage
to get democracy and freedom in Cuba

Todd: but the U.S. has normal relations 
with China and Vietnam

Rubio: exactly - we have trade with China
and they have no free internet now

Todd: so as President you would
have an embargo with China?

Rubio: don't be silly – where would Wal-Mart
get all their cheap goods?

Todd: I need 50 socks for $5

Rubio: Obama has betrayed us all!

Todd: you say Obama is soft on 
left-wing dictators

Rubio: that's right

Todd: but he just increased sanctions
on Venezuela so that is isn't true

Rubio: exactly – Obama is a hypocrite too!

Todd: Rand Paul called you an isolationist

Rubio: he's objectively pro-Obama

Todd: I see

Rubio: look I just want Cuba to be from
an autocratic nutty leader and free and
fair elections and if it works there we
might even try it in Florida

Todd: would run against Jeb Bush?

Rubio: yes because he's kind of a doofus

Todd: thanks for coming

[ break ]

Todd: in polls only Mitt Romney
does better than Jeb Bush

Todd: but Rand Paul pulls in
moderates and tea partiers

Todd: meanwhile Hillary is polling in at 80%
but if she doesn't run Elizabeth Warren
does well with the same group that
supported Paul Tsongas and 
Gary Hart and Bill Bradley

Audience: um okay

Todd: Jeb Bush is running –
Sarah you're from BushWorld –
that must be kind of exciting and terrifying

Fagen: there was huge cheer in the room
when Jeb said 'I will run and start four wars'!

Todd: Nolte you're a big wingnut 
- what do you think?

Nolte: Jeb pissed off the base and
that didn't work for McCain or Mittens

Fagen: Jeb was a tea partier
before there was a tea party –
I swear he's really crazy!

Richardson: he could do well because
he's got a Hispanic wife

Todd: he speaks better Spanish than Hillary

Fagen: and better English than George

Richardson: Cuba should release
their political prisoners

Matthews: Peggy Noonan supports
this Cuba deal so I do too

Todd: are we going to have another 
Bush – Clinton race?

Fagen: probably

Todd: is it un-American to have 
family dynasties?

Matthews: who else can the GOP nominate
at least the Democrats have Elizabeth
Warren waiting in the wings

Nolte: Scott Walker can unite the party
he's an asshole from a swing state

Todd: interesting

Nolte: Common Core will sink Jeb Bush

Todd: omg Obama called on only 
female reporters!

Fagen: The Bush White House had
more women than Obama!

Todd: and that's another
episode of Meet The Press

This Week With George Stephanopoulos – December 21, 2014


Guests:
Pierre Thomas
Ray Kelly
Gregory Meeks
Mitch Singer - fmr Sony chief digital strategy
Major General Bret Williams - Former Director of 
U.S. Cyber Command
Fran Townsend - Former White House 
Homeland Security Director
Thor Halvorssen - Human Rights Foundation
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)

Stephanopoulos: omg two cops
were shot and killed

Bratton: it was an assassination

Reporter: he was from Baltimore
and said he was going to shoot cops

De Blasio: it was an attack on all of us

Pataki: this murder is all Eric Holder's fault

Union: the mayor has blood on his hands

Stephanopoulos: is it fair to blame 
the Mayor of New York for a 
murderer from Baltimore?

Kelly: yes because he's anti-police

Stephanopoulos: how so?

Kelly: he said he warned his son
to be careful around the police
which is terrible advice

Stephanopoulos: what would you 
say to police officers now?

Kelly: I would say do your job and ignore the haters

Meeks: no one is anti-police but 
people do want the justice system 
to work for everyone

Kelly: see how much he hates the police

Meeks: protesters oppose all violence

Kelly: see how he promotes violence

Stephanopoulos: the police say they
are now at war with the citizens

Kelly: you bet George

Meeks: we need to set a tone to
bring people together – most police
are good but not all of them

Kelly: stop hating the police!

[ break ]

Stephanopoulos: omg North Korea
hacked Sony over a Seth Rogan movie!

Obama: we will take our revenge –
no one puts James Flacco in a corner

Thomas: hackers deleted Sony's files 
after a movie came out about killing 
the leader of North Korea

Stephanopoulos: shouldn't have used 'Password1'

Thomas: they have no sense of humor George

Stephanopoulos: well then they 
have something in common

Thomas: then movie theaters got
death threats and caved

Obama: we must not be
intimidated by death threats

Sony: we didn't cave we just
strategically backtracked

Thomas: Sony knows if they release
this movie will just get hacked again

Stephanopoulos: you're a former 
Sony executive - why did Sony 
cave to terrorists so easily

Singer: why are we all blaming the victim her?

Stephanopoulos: it's fun and easy

Singer: what about the government's
obligation to take revenge for criminal actions

Williams: the problem with taking revenge
is North Korea doesn't have any computers

Stephanopoulos: that's a problem

Williams: also we don't want to hurt
North Korean civilians like if we
shut off power to a hospital

Townshend: we can ask for China's help

Stephanopoulos: but they're 
cyber-terrorists too

Townshend: I know George

Stephanopoulos: can we drop the
movie into North Korea on little 
thumb drives on tiny parachutes?

Halvorssen: yes it would be great 
because it demystifies their Dear 
Leader as a bumbling idiot

Stephanopoulos: really?

Halvorssen: I know a girl from North Korea
who told me “Titanic” changed her life and
and at the end she cried and cried

Stephanopoulos: wow she was so moved
by how Jack sacrificed his life for Rose

Halvorssen: no she sobbed because 
that diamond that rich lady threw in 
the ocean could have fed every starving 
person in her village for a whole year

Stephanopoulos: oh

Halvorssen: she learned Westerners 
are so rich they throw priceless jewelry 
away like useless garbage

Stephanopoulos: so why not 
release the movie online so anyone 
can watch it for free

Singer: oh come on Sony has to 
make money - you would never 
put your tv show on the internet for free

Stephanopoulos: actually we do it every week

Singer: jesus you're kidding

Stephanopoulos: nope

Singer: you're still putting 
the burden on the victim

Townshend: Obama should show real
leadership like that time George W. Bush
stood on the rubble and yelled and 
then let bin Laden get away and said 
he didn't care about him

Stephanopoulos: those were good times

Townshend: Obama should screen the
movie in Times Square so we can have
a national moment of healing

Stephanopoulos: that might literally be
the dumbest idea I've ever heard

Williams: what if the Koreans shut 
down our power plants - how will 
we keep up with the Kardashians?

Stephanopoulos: scary!

Williams: the internet was not designed
to be attacked which is a shame

Stephanopoulos: thanks everyone

[ break ]

Avila: Cuba has long been the forbidden
fruit and home of the dance of love

Avila: the President conducted 18 months
of negotiations leading to a prisoner swap
and two first round draft picks

Avila: by January the U.S. will
have an embassy in Havana!

Avila: it's controversial but even people
in Florida support lifting the embargo

Stephanopoulos: good morning Marco

Rubio: hi George

Stephanopoulos: why shouldn't Americans
be free to travel where they want?

Rubio: because Cubans aren't
free so none us should be

Stephanopoulos: well the embargo 
has failed for 50 years

Rubio: exactly

Stephanopoulos: I don't follow

Rubio: right

Stephanopoulos: we have normal relations
with traditional friends like Vietnam and 
new enemies like Saudi Arabia

Rubio: and they're still not democratic!

Stephanopoulos: but you favor trade with China

Rubio: without China Wal-Mart would be
reduced to selling hand-crafted cat sweaters
your grandmother won't stop knitting

Stephanopoulos: you said the 
Pope hates freedom

Rubio: yes the Pope doesn't think 
people deserve to be free

Stephanopoulos: are you serious?

Rubio: yes also Obama should arrest 
women who want to have an abortion 
because of freedom

Stephanopoulos: Rand Paul criticizes 
you as an isolationist who wants to 
build a moat around Cuba

Rubio: he is supporting Obama 
which is by definition bad

Stephanopoulos: that sounds narrow minded

Rubio: American must be engaged 
on the global stage!

Stephanopoulos: except in Cuba

Rubio: exactly!

Stephanopoulos: is Jeb Bush a 
true conservative?

Rubio: no he's one of those rich 
insider squishes

Stephanopoulos: are you running 
for President?

Rubio: I'm pursing the American dream

Stephanopoulos: why would you
be a better President that Jeb Bush?

Rubio: because my family didn't
wreck the U.S. economy twice

Stephanopoulos: what's your agenda?

Rubio: it's all about American Dreams

Stephanopoulos: thanks for coming